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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also needs to be noted that a lot of "conservatism" is straight up fascism, mask on and mask off. If you undermine social programs while shouting about how you are protecting kids and families, you are conserving jack shit.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

Right? There is a lack of values held dearly by most conservativesband just the ideas of morality they end up selling without putting in effort for it.

I actually agree we probably need a limit to imported items and imported labor because Democrats actually use both as a way to undercut the American lower working classes and keep wages low but I don't see a Republican ever running on actually that without secretly under the table also hiring immigrant labor and not doing anything real in office.

Politics has become about grandstanding and then changing nothing to protect an economic system that made both sides rich except one side enjoys hitting people they view as "not the good ones" which means not white Christian Male.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

we probably need a limit to imported items and imported labor because Democrats actually use both as a way to undercut the American lower working classes and keep wages low

Democrats favor increasing the minimum wage and are supported by most unions, so your statement doesn't make sense. Democrats passed the "Inflation Reduction Act" added funds for the IRS to tax rich people and allows Medicare to reduce costs for expensive drugs.

Reducing America's access to international markets will probably cause a minor recession. Just raising the minimum wage will help more directly.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

Raising the minimum wage does nothing to bring back labor to the country where we see large amounts of service sector jobs we deemed as good work just a decade ago being moved overseas to areas like panama, South Africa, and Philippines.

The transportation of goods such long distances as well also causes huge pollution and cost issues with transportation costs and logistics being a nightmare to touch.

Yes I understand that a shoring up of global economics would likely cause issues but it doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Democrats are the better party for sure but the neo-liberalism and focus on imported labor and goods is absolutely directly hurting the lower class Americans. So unless we can generate a huge increase in service jobs while increasing the pay and the amount the ultra wealthy pay towards it without impacting the lower and middle classes we need to have some push to labor as a backup.

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