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Police discover 80 Russian torture chambers in Ukraine (www.ukrinform.net)

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[-] tym@lemmy.world 122 points 11 months ago

Fuck elon musk for not allowing Ukraine to dismantle those war machines providing cover for this type of diabolical behavior to continue.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 63 points 11 months ago

Elon, like any other conservative sub-human, will always side with oppressors. Always.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm not a fan of referring to fellow humans who have fallen victim to the endless tirade of conservative propaganda sub-human. It's very blatantly dehumanizing and promotes division along party lines instead of proletariat unity. We should be focusing on the shitheads pushing that propaganda in the first place. I know that Elon is one of them, but calling all conservatives sub-human because of him is just wrong.

[-] Irishred88@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

I would add that dehumanizing rhetoric of any kind can become a gateway drug to justifying atrocity. No matter what side you stand on. It can contribute to the radicalization of any group. Nobody is immune to becoming a monster.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not everyone is willing to do what's necessary to cure the disease. I am willing. If that makes me a monster, then I am the monster they themselves created.

Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death. It always has been. History has proven time after time that pacifism cannot stop conservatives. We must be willing to do difficult things to survive this kind of deadly infection. Preaching peace is unfortunately not helpful. It placates those who are better served by understanding the danger we are all in and what needs to happen to stop that threat.

[-] Irishred88@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I am not arguing in favor of pacifism. I fully recognize the need to defend against harmful ideologies that infect people's minds with bad ideas. And if those who harbor bad ideas threaten violence then it may be necessary to react in kind. I accept that.

I'm simply saying that it matters what kind of language we use when we talk about it. Calling conservatives, or any opposing side perceived as a violent threat, subhuman creates the misconception that your own side could not ever be in the wrong. In so doing, it is possible that the we too could become infected with the bad idea that "All (insert opposing threat here) must die." I don't ever in my life time want to see anything like the Holocaust happen because people couldn't stop and think that at some point the killing needs to stop, because it's reached a point where we are no longer defending and only killing out of pure and base fear that the threat will rise up again. There is a point where self defense goes too far and gives rise to genocide. That possibility scares the hell out of me.

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[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

conservative sub-human

Hey man. There's no need for that

Very redundant

[-] OldPain@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I thought Lemmy was different than Reddit. I'm not mad, just disappointed.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

It is the internet, why did you think it would be different?

Still the same people show up.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Has anyone ever told you that you look like Hony Tawk?

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[-] onparole@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Now now. You don't want the Musk rats attacking you.

[-] Willer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Not sure what Elons reasoning is here, but i guess if it wasnt for Starlink, communication would have collapsed in the first week.

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