I am torn. Lemmy feels slimmer and easier to use with a wider variety of apps. Kbin has an advantage of being an "all-in-one" solution for the Fediverse with a better UI.

That said I use Mastodon for microblogging, so Kbin having that built in only clutters the site in my particular use case. While Kbin has a better UI it's also more drab in color and harder to navigate. Kbin also has this karma/points system which feels odd. It skews into the negative VERY easily and is displayed on your profile. I prefer Lemmy's upvote/downvote system but doesn't have a permanent karma/points system.

I've been reading Lemmy is growing much faster than Kbin, but then I hear that "it's all bots" and not real growth.

Where do you stand on this? Where do you think you'll find yourself when this all shakes out?