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Then source that. I gave you a source, the same website you used first, and it shows exactly what I said. Here it is again, just to be clear. Energy consumption is not the same as emissions.
I've never argued Europe's higher historic emissions, but no matter who has done more historically we still all need to stop producing so much pollution now. China emitting less historically will not save us if it produces more in future.
And like I said, I hope it works, but the actual numbers right now are that China now produces as much as Europe and if current trends continue it will be producing more. If Europe has no plan and China has such a great one, why are the outcomes today the same?
You just keep going in circles here, and I've addressed this multiple times. Go back and read what I said. Nobody is saying energy consumption is same as emissions. I don't know why you keep bringing that up to be honest.
Sure, and as I keep pointing out. China has a clear plan that's being implemented ahead of schedule. Europe does not have such plan, and it does not want to work with China on implementing one. That's the real problem here.
I'm not seeing a source for "You’ve been continuously claiming that EU has per capita emissions on part with China. This is false."
I've sourced my argument, and it was a source that you brought up first. Your turn.
My bad, you did talk about consumption based emissions. The point you keep avoiding is that China is currently implementing a tangible plan while Europe is not.