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I'm pretty new to the fediverse, and I find the idea amazing. But one thing concerns me though. How will server owners be able to afford to run servers with massive amounts of data coming through them? Theoretically speaking, if a Reddit migration were to happen how would server upkeep costs look like?

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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ruud who runs lemmy.world and mastodon.world publishes financial information on his blog: https://blog.mastodon.world/april-and-may-2023-financial-update

[–] clif@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wow, such transparency... that's awesome. I wonder (hope) if there will be a massive spike in donations in June.

/me sets alarm to remind me to donate after work since I keep thinking about it while I'm away.

[–] LilLetDown@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ya, no kidding. This piqued my interest, but I did not click expecting to see an actual cost basis! I have been looking at potentially setting up my own node, but at the same time... Perhaps contributing here, financially as well, could be the best option.

Still fun to play around with my own stuff though :) Thanks guys!

[–] OptimusPrime@lemmy.moonling.nl 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He is a Dutchie, that must be why.

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Iirc, Isn't the lemmy.world vps around €200 PM?

Thanks for the instance and good work btw, I know it's not easy running this stuff.

[–] ruud@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah 180, for now it's overkill but I prefer that over scaling up every day.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Kichae@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I have a small, private Lemmy site, a personal Calckey site, and some blogs that I run off of a VPS that I pay like $13/month for. The server is overkill by an order of magnitude for what I'm using it for. Based on current usage, I could support a few hundred active users without ever taking a dime from anyone, though I'm sure media expenses don't scale well. That said, there are collective media projects like Jortage out there that have the potentially to significantly reduce media hosting costs for small sites.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

This sort of openness and transparency around finances and the need for donations should become the norm (however awesome it is to see from ruud).

IMO, with more transparency, the more normal it will seem to donate and the less grating it will be to ask for donations.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Don't forget to consider donating to developers of lemmy and/or your mobile app of choice!

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is it possible to donate?

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Opencollective has a page. Recurring donations are usually more useful than one-time, but both are excellent.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just reading through this it seems crazy to me that lemmy.world is being scaled vertically, is there something about how it works that prevents horizontal scaling (like, load balancing across a number of servers all using the same db)?

[–] Forkk@forkk.me 1 points 2 years ago

As far as I can tell, the software just wasn't built with that in mind, so I would expect some kind of bugs or weird behavior like race conditions, etc. Nothing is stopping anyone from trying it to see what happens though I guess.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I am trying to start a project with a fairly ambitious goal, trying to take load off the central instance to reduce hosting costs (whether that comes in the form of a single powerful server or multiples pointed at the same DB). It's still in early form, but the core (trying to make it so running a Lemmy node is not too punishing on the main instance server) is an attempt to do the engineering to help accomplish exactly this.

[–] cashews_win@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do you have a tick next to your name?

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I subscribed to Ruud's Patreon, and it had a note that part of the benefits at the $8/month tier is you now get a checkmark next to your name (* if you go and edit your name to have a check mark next to it). I obeyed, partly because that's funny to me and partly in the hopes that more people subscribe. I've seen a couple other people with it as well.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Cool info. Thanks for posting that.