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Croatia shutters a libertarian paradise, orange site readers have a sad
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The libertarians do know how to write not that sympathetically [edit: but they are not the only people who suck at writing]. They seem to care more about 'our equipment!' than the personal property of people who used to live there (While funny here, it still sucks ass the cops wrecked so much shit, I know they pull (in various countries) the same shit with unhoused people). Wonder how this will radicalize more libertarians further right.
(Amusing they also have created a sort of 'money pinata' for the local Croatians, as they vow to rebuild using local resources again. Region doing badly? Just send in the cops to smash the gentrifying weird westerners so they spend more).
(Orangists doing a 'wow from first principles countries are weird' is also funny)
I submitted this link too but removed it as a duplicate, and it's really a category error from the Liberland people. They are writing from their perspective - they are a sovereign state with citizens, and the raid by Croatian authorities is a literal invasion. However, from the point of view of Croatia, international law, and everyone normal, they are squatters who are illegally constructing buildings on land controlled by Croatia.
A lot of the HN commentators sympathetic to Liberland would have a fit if a group of Mexicans set up an enclave in Texas and started constructing buildings. These hypothetical Mexicans might have their own spin on the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo which they spun out of reading too much Wikipedia, and their claims are just as valid as Liberland's.
There are a lot of neocolonial echos in the Liberland post too:
Yeah sure, you can do a lot within the framework of existing Croatian law to bring investment, there's no need to set up a LARP country on a floodplain to do so.
To be honest, I think it would be hilarious if Texas were annexed by Mexico, even just a little bit. Texans deserve a competent government who will invest in them and conduct reasonable diplomacy, and they're not getting that from Texas.
Isn't it also not just a floodplain but also a highly contested border area which their intrusion has made even more complex and annoying. They are lucky Serbia isn't also walking over the river to mess with their stuff. Wonder if that will happen to the Free Republic of Verdis. https://verdisgov.org/ (which isn't totally a scam to trick people into forking over 300 euros to try and apply for citizenship).
(And also yeah lol them building that on a floodplain. [laughs in dutch])