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THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
Not a comment on this case, but I saw a couple episodes of Cops recently and it seemed standard for people they were arresting to resist and immediately shout they can't breathe, so there's a chance cops have become a bit numb to it. Not saying the policing methods are correct, just a thought that 'the boy who cried wolf' might be aligning.
Maybe all of the people yelling I can't breathe really can't breathe?
Perhaps restraint methods that have no possibility of asphyxiating the detainee should be used, as most departmental policy requires.
Especially considering it's really only the US where this seems to happen an awful lot. I don't hear about deaths in the process of arrest in, say, the UK or Germany or Japan with nearly the same regularity that we do with almost EVERY SINGLE PD here in the US.
Cops TV show is the original Copaganda.
The show literally lets the police they ride with have final say on the editing, so there is never anything that makes cops look bad, or makes their baseless assumptions look anything but correct.
Even if the person is actually innocent, which, IIRC, has lead to at least one lawsuit against the TV show for portraying them in a far worse way than the situation was in reality and making them look guilty to boot, when they were in fact innocent, all to make the cops look good and justified.
In that tale, the one that gets the comeuppance is the one who cried wolf.
Here, it was just some innocent kid.
Yes, but the users you replied too, clearly thinks the innocent one who was killed here, IS the boy who cried wolf.. that's really what they are implying by referencing the cops episodes (which is strange cause I too watched cops growing up, as many of us did, and this was not a common thing said by anyone on the show.. not even on live PD... ). No, that user is just trying to paint an evil picture that this innocent person was making up their claims of they couldn't breath and therefore deserved it...