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submitted 1 year ago by mondoman712@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

We're all in on the culture war now

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[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Cyclist insurance is primarily so expensive (here) because cyclists here are fucking morons with no affinity for personal safety and responsibility.

I understand their plight as a motorcyclist (as well as other vulnerable travel methods) However, in my experience acting like shit and expecting everyone else to ensure YOUR safety is not a very appropriate way to stay safe.

I actively behave on the roads as if being targeted by a bit squad. I have had one accident in my entire driving life that could be considered my fault. Yet, when speaking with cyclists etc. All they have to talk about is their latest near fatality that most certainly wasn't their fault! No sir they had absolutely no hand in it!

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Infrastructure is the answer, not insurance.

[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I agree, good luck getting it past even the most progressive government in my country. Nobody wants to pay their fair share of tax (and votes accordingly) and yet all expect the investment in infrastructure that comes with it.

Shocking, to say the least.

[-] aeki@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I bike here (Somewhere in Sweden) I barely ever have to interact with any cars because the car roads and bike lanes are entirely separate.

In the middle of the city you could make a case about lanes with pedestrians and bike lanes that often are only separated by a painted line.

The crossings have separate buttons for pedestrians and bikes. Traffic is very rarely ambiguous, at least in urban areas. It's easy to bike "the right way".

There are rules for biking, and some assholes break them, but that goes for everything.

Basically, I agree with the other commenter. Infrastructure is the answer.

[-] CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I appreciate your comment and sentiment, could you come over and inform my country on how to build a city? As it stands, it's more convenient, planned for, and infrastructure installed for cars. The only thing keeping me from using one of my smaller transportation methods to commute, remains safety. Safety of myself, but also safety of my ride.

I certainly don't have enough good ideas to remedy this, but I sure hope someone else does.

[-] aeki@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

I understand, while I live in Sweden, I didn't grow up here. I wish I could convince people back in my home country that reducing cars is a worthwhile goal, and certainly better people than me have tried. I'm not arguing for you to simply bike and take the risks, I didn't and I wouldn't.

Reducing car reliance would be a big project even if everyone agreed. I don't take it for granted here. Even in Sweden we're also facing risks of reduced public transportation and favoring cars, and that worries me. It's like finding a little piece of a well working system and watching it become underappreciated and potentially destroyed.

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