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submitted 1 year ago by janus2 to c/askculinary@lemmy.world

All the times I've tried working with it, it seems to stick to everything EXCEPT itself. Regular seasoned sushi vinegar as well as sushi vinegar-xanthan gum pastes of varying viscosity didn't work. :/

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[-] NPC@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting question, but it might be really difficult thing to do for a few reasons:

I'm assuming you want to use the stuff because it has a really low carb and therefor starch contents. (it's pretty much 97% water and some fiber). Sushi rice has a really high starch content which togther with the vinegar and sugar help bind everything as you'd want from sushi rice. Most binding agents you'd want to use to create a similar effect are also one form of starch or another.

Even if you want to use something like that, you're still trying to loosly bind together little pellets of already "geletanised" water. That's a difficult thing to do no matter what. Anything you do will probably interfere with the rice itself, either breaking the binding in the rice or turning everything into one big sticky blob.

That being said, if you dont mind trying some things and introducing some starch to bind things, there are a few things I would try in this situation:

Sushi rice is usually served cold, if this is the case you can try to use this to your advantage. I would try a really small amount of agar agar or maybe even pectin. These only really start binding when cooled down. In this case I somehow feel a small amount of liquid pectin (and vinegar and some sugar) just after cooking the rice, might give an interesting effect when it's all cooled down.

Otherwise I'd try introducing back in some starch, preferably sushi starch so simulate back the starch that would otherwise leak out of the rice during cooking.

Hope this helps a bit

[-] janus2 1 points 1 year ago

First off this is a really in-depth response so thank you!

Pectin and agar both seem like excellent candidates given their temperature dependent thickening, as you mentioned. It might even make shaping maki and nigiri easy while the rice and/or thickener is still warm, and then more structurally sound after they're set.

I do eat starch and mainly like shirataki for the low-calorie, high-fiber aspect (and that I'm just a nerd about ingredient substitutions). So I could try thickening the seasoned vinegar with starch (even rice starch if I decide to add another ingredient to my dragon hoard of a pantry). Admittedly I also have yet to try cutting the shirataki rice with actual sushi rice and seeing how low I can get the ratio before structural failure. :]

[-] NPC@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No problem, this really was an interesting question that got my brain going in a fun way. Lemme know how things turn out

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