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Maybe it will implode?
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How many seats do democrats need to make a singlepayer option without Republican help?
Supermajority in both Senate and House?
Genuine question, I'm not overly familiar with the nitpicks.
They had it for about 50 days in 2009.
That's when we got the ACA.
Which is Romneycare.
They had a supermajority and they still wouldn't do anything but pass a Republican bill.
I don't think the Democratic party actually had a supermajority. January of 2009 there were 57 dem senators plus Bernie and Lieberman (who refused to vote for single payer); however, Al Franken wasn't sworn in until July because he barely won the election and Republicans forced a recount, leaving that Senate seat empty. Ted Kennedy was dying and stopped showing up in March and later died, Scott Brown (a Republican) won that seat in a special election. Kennedy did have a replacement who voted in favor of ACA right before Brown won his election.
I don't believe there was ever a time where dems actually had 60 votes in the Senate during 2009 except the pretty short period where they did manage to pass the ACA with exactly 60 votes that included Bernie, Lieberman, Franken, and Kennedy's temporary replacement. But remember that Franken wasn't there until July and Scott Brown got elected right after ACA passed the Senate in December 2009. So by the time the ACA made it to the House vote it was March 2010 and if the House Dems didn't pass it as it was, the Republicans would be able to block it in the Senate.
I'm not so sure that Dems would have done more if they had a proper supermajority, probably not
Kennedy's temp replacement was installed in November 2009, so between then and January (when Brown took office) they had the supermajority and the Senate passed the ACA.
It was a broken bill that was going to be cleaned up in reconciliation with a different House bill. But when Brown took office the House was forced to pass the Senate version verbatim so the final bill wouldn't have to go back to the Senate prior to the President's signature.