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this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
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I think that's a misunderstanding of how ADHD, and in fact mental illness in general, works. Perhaps for some people removing the distraction will work, but more often in my experience another will just fit in its place. The phone is not the problem, it is a symptom.
And part of harm reduction is removing symptoms. Say, if you have a bad headache, you might not cure whatever is causing it by taking pain meds, but at least you'll function.
Phones are a very powerful attention trap. I'd be curious to hear an argument of a more powerful and accessable one
Literally fucking anything that seems more pleasant than thing I'm procrastinating
The phone isn't what causes this issue in people with adhd, I do it with or without a phone. You're just misunderstanding how adhd works.
I'm aware how ADHD behaves, I have it. I've been medicated for years.
It is obvious to me and many others who have it that things of great dopamine satisfaction are ESPECIALLY distracting. Cellphone distraction is a known attention sink and such things are even more powerful for folks with attention/focus issues.
I guarantee any of us locked in a blank room and a sink full of dishes would be faster to complete the chore if we were without engrossing distraction.
Those with ADHD have an even higher responsibility to themselves to remove distractions and keep a "clean" lifestyle. It's a cop out to not acknowledge massive distraction triggers or traps.
I'm not suggesting those struggling are lesser. Only that they may be not meeting their own self care needs, willfully or otherwise.
I agree on phone usage restriction apps. You can also extend the usage as a reward for achieving things which would work as an external motivation that ADHD people need. I also agree with other people that it won't even be close to solving ADHD problems, people were just arguing with you about different thing because they thought that you have the same perception of ADHD as the top level comment.
If you're aware of how adhd works then you of all people should know that "throw your phone in the toilet" is shite advice that only someone who doesn't know how adhd works would give. If you have adhd then you should know better than that.
Well my doctor advised me to limit intense distractions to allow me to focus on my wellness and accomplish tasks. I never said throw the phone away.
It took a lot of work to limit and change my habits, and help from my wife to help me block out stimuli and keep it away.
Executive function is fucking hard enough without bullshit attention sinks.
People are incredibly fast to claim that somebody doesn't understand how ADHD or procrastination works, just because they said something they don't quite agree with.
"throw your phone in the toilet" is not and has never been the solution to this problem in any universe under the sun, so no, it's not just because they said something I don't like. They're just backpedalling.
A lot of people seem to wear disorders like add/ADHD like an identity. At least online...
Like, I'm not a lesser person for my disorder, but I HAVE a disorder. It's my responsibility to myself to maximize my outcomes, and minimize the impacts.
Being critical of what distracts me, or triggers a tangential behavior track is so important to my being successful. In the case of cell phones, that is a known trap for even non ADHD folks, so my sharing it as relevant here isn't some wacko suggestion hah
When there perfect fixes aren't available (which is almost always), partial fixes are golden.
Man just read the meme again. The whole point is it looks like an attention trap but in ADHD it's just a facade.