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In a shocking incident, horrific visuals are surfacing on the internet in which it can be seen that the Hamas militants are taking a semi-naked dead body of an Israeli woman on an open truck and parading in the city. It is said that the militants after attacking Israel are killing and taking the civilians as hostage. The militants took the dead bodies of the innocent civilians who were killed during the attack in open trucks and paraded them.

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[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Comparing two acts is the textbook definition of whataboutism.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

🤣. Oh look you're doing exactly what Wikipedia describes (parenthesis mine):

Whataboutism can provide necessary context into whether or not a particular line of critique is relevant or fair (this is what I did), and behavior that may be imperfect by international standards may be appropriate in a given geopolitical neighborhood (which is the circumstance here).[7]

(Here's where you come in): Accusing an interlocutor of whataboutism can also in itself be manipulative and serve the motive of discrediting, as critical talking points can be used selectively and purposefully even as the starting point of the conversation (cf. agenda setting, framing, framing effect, priming, cherry picking). The deviation from them can then be branded as whataboutism.[citation needed]

You look like a fool.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Whole lotta words just to say I'm right. Thanks for backing me up I guess...?

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Only you're not, this is the exception like it clearly lays out.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You even admit it yourself: "Whataboutism can provide necessary context into whether or not a particular line of critique is relevant or fair (this is what I did)". I didn't say whether the whataboutism was fair or not, just that the definition was comparing two things. Which you've agreed with.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

This is hilarious. The exception means that in this case it is completely valid and not a fallacy. Eg: whether or not it is relevant or fair.

You tried to call me out and then got hung by your own petard.

[-] StorminNorman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I never said it wasn't valid. Just that the definition of whataboutism was comparing two things. Someone else called you out and you seem to think it was me. Imagine going through life being so sensitive. Must be exhausting.

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