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[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 207 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The UN and EU consider lots of things Israel does illegal. We just don't do anything about it and they don't care.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

This is true. But it is also because there isn't a much better alternative.

The Palestinians don't have a Nelson Mandela, MLK or Mahatma Gandhi kind of person that the western world can rally around and support.

Like, I'm sitting here at home in Europe, thoroughly disapproving of Israel, while being also fully disgusted by what Hamas did.

And I understand why Palestinians fight. I can understand that they can't be fully pacifist and that they don't have the capability to wage a normal war, so they result to asymmetric warfare.

But if they had just cleanly killed or kidnapped the adults and spared the children, that would have been the minimum to not fully alienate a lot of people who are sympathetic to their cause.

I guess Yasser Arafat was the best they had and it only went downhill after that.

[-] Cerbero@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Thing also is that those people were also hated during thier time and also called terrorists. There’s no good options for a leader sadly.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was alive when Nelson Mandela was active, and he wasn't called a terrorist in the west.

He was revered as a hero by many in the West, just like Navalny is revered today.

He literally WAS a terrorist. He ran the ANC’s terrorist wing. People called him a terrorist and it was accurate.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of people seem the think he was only regarded well once released from prison. I certainly didn't know much about him until then.

Yet Only Fools and Horses was made in 1981, and they lived in Nelson Mandela House. So even in the UK we knew South Africa was on the wrong side of history. And we should know, we wrote most of it...

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

But Hamas does very textbook terrorist things, seems to me like they are actually terrorists.

[-] Palerider@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So were the IRA...

And yet now here we are with Sinn Fein holding elected positions.

At some point there has to be dialogue otherwise you just keep killing one another.

[-] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago

As opposed to the IDF that’s been terrorizing Palestinians constantly?

It’s terrorists in both sides. Unfortunately civilians are the ones caught in the crossfire.

As opposed to the ANC? Who literally had a terrorist wing run by Mandela?

[-] Eikichi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

As opposed to the resistants (including many Jews) during WW2 who were literally called terrorists by Nazis ?

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