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Let's walk through the uncanny valley with SBF so we can collapse some wave functions together (hachyderm.io)
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Rationalist check-list:

  1. Incorrect use of analogy? Check.
  2. Pseudoscientific nonsense used to make your point seem more profound? Check.
  3. Tortured use of probability estimates? Check.
  4. Over-long description of a point that could just have easily been made in 1 sentence? Check.

This email by SBF is basically one big malapropism.

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[-] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

How can anyone take a fanfic writer seriously.

[-] maol@awful.systems 10 points 1 year ago

I used to read fanfiction, and by the standards of Harry Potter fanfiction, it's not even good fanfiction.

~~(insert "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy" joke here)~~

Maybe it's just a matter of taste, but I couldn't get through more than a chapter. I wonder if most of the audience for it were people who didn't normally read fanfiction. Actually, I just looked it up on fanlore to see what fandom people have said about it, and the reviews are mixed....

"I read it longer than I planned to because I kept expecting it to turn into Harry/Draco slash [...] But then I realized the author was just a weird neckbeard who had some kind of strange Draco fixation but was probably not going to make them go gay. Also it was just a really bad fic."

Lots of gold in there. Apparently Eliezer was bullied by a Harry Potter fan forum, to the point that some of the users set up a blog called "Methods of Rationality sucks".

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago

Apparently Eliezer was bullied by a Harry Potter fan forum, to the point that some of the users set up a blog called “Methods of Rationality sucks”.

His reaction was where Sneerclub got its name

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 1 year ago

That quote has always been mildly amusing but learning it's from a fanfic beef makes it hilarious.

[-] maol@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

And people gave this man money. Lots of money. My God.

[-] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

It's as if /r/iamverysmart sat down to write it. So clearly it's Eliezer self-inserting himself into a children's book as a Jimmy Neutron wannabe and trying to pass is as a legitimate improvement.

[-] wallabra@bark.lgbt 3 points 1 year ago

@dingleberry @sinedpick At least fanfic writesr are not Yudkowsky fanboys.

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