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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

20 years where gaza has the 1967 borders, zero settlements, zero internal checkpoints, Jews evicted at gunpoint; everything that should be required for lasting peace.

You're a fascist idiot if you sincerely believe that, but just so nobody falls for your bullshit, there was an opportunity for peace with Hamas once. It was 2012, where a ceasefire was signed, and one of its condition was the lifting of the blockade. Around that time, the West Bank government and Hamas started working towards creating a unified government and seriously pursuing peace. Everything Israel would've welcomed if it wanted peace. Well what happened?

The Israeli government vehemently opposed the unified government, calling on Mahmoud Abbas to choose between "peace with Israel or peace with Hamas". They also didn't lift the blockade. Naturally, because people don't like being tricked, and really don't like living in open-air prisons, Hamas resumed its attacks and the whole thing fell through.

Everything that should've been required for peace, gone to waste because Israel didn't want peace.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Everything that should've been required for peace, gone to waste because Israel didn't want peace.

Bullshit. Realizing that Hamas was tearing up it's own infrastructure to build rockets and refusing to stop the blockade during. A period of regular rocket attacks doesn't mean it didn't wasn't peace. 2012 was the "we cease you fire" ceasefire era.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I like how you just dismissed the conclusion without addressing the reasoning. Anyway for everyone who's wondering why there isn't peace in the region, there you have it.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas didn't resume rocket fire. The 2012 era ceasefire is the one where they kept firing rockets.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

From December 2012 to late June/early July 2014, Hamas did not fire rockets into Israel, and tried to police other groups doing so.[111] These efforts were largely successful; Netanyahu stated in March 2014 that the rocket fire in the past year was the "lowest in a decade."[29][111][112] According to Shabak, in the first half of 2014 there were 181 rocket attacks[113] compared to 55 rocket attacks in whole 2013.

-Wikipedia.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago
[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It literally says "Hamas did not fire rockets into Israel, and tried to police other groups doing so". That's fulfilling their end of the bargain.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Allowing rockets to be fired from your territory is an act of war.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Okay you're just being obnoxious.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Yet somehow the PLA in the much larger West Bank manages.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They... Don't. There are resistance/terrorist organizations based out of the West bank; they just aren't as famous as Hamas. And it doesn't help that there are people who don't want peace and will actively work to disturb it.

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

They largely do. Almost every rocket attack has come from the Gaza Strip.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I mean yes, your point? Tell you what I don't need to hear it. You're arguing in circles now and I have better things to do with my life.

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