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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Subject6051@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Modified post. Read the edit at the buttom.

Now, call me crazy, I don't think so! I have been an addict and I know how it is to be an addict, but I don't think sugar is as addictive as cocaine. And I really am frustrated with people who say such things.

This notion that it's as addictive drives me crazy! I mean, imagine someone gullible who says, well, "I can control my addiction to ice cream, heck I can go without ice cream for months, if it's as addictive as cocaine, why not give cocaine a chance? It's not like it's gonna destroy me or something?" Yeah, I have once been this gullible (when I was younger) and I hate this.

I do crave sugar and I do occasionally (once per week and sometimes twice a month) buy sugary treats/lays packet (5 Indian Rupees, smallest one) to quench that craving, but I refuse to believe that it is as addictive as cocaine or any other drugs. PS: My last lays packet was 45 ago and I am fine, and this is the most addictive substance I have consumed.

I am pretty some people here have been addicted to cocaine (truly no judgement, I hope you are sober now), so what say you?

PS: If you haven't been addicted to anything drastic as drugs, you are still welcome to chip in.


edit: thank you all for adding greater context.

I realize now that when they talk about sugar, they are not just talking abt lays and ice creams, but sugar in general. I get the studies now. But media is doing a terrible job of reporting on studies.

Also, the media depiction of scientific studies is really the worst. I mean, they make claims which garbage and/or incomplete data or publish articles on studies which make more alarming claims. Also, maybe wait for a consensus before you publish anything, i.e., don't publish anything which isn't peer reviewed and replicated multiple times. Yes, your readers might miss out on the latest and greatest, but it isn't really helpful if the latest and greatest studies in science aren't peer reviewed and backed up well by data.

I feel like a headline "SUGAR IS AS ADDICTIVE AS COCAINE" can and will be life destroying if you don't give enough information. I feel like there should be an ethical responsibility to not sensationalize studies, maybe instead of "SUGAR IS AS ADDICTIVE AS COCAINE" give a headline like "Sugar and Addiction, what science says."

also, https://i.imgur.com/VrBgrjA.png ss of bing chat gpt answering the question.

some articles: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/25/is-sugar-really-as-addictive-as-cocaine-scientists-row-over-effect-on-body-and-brain

https://www.healthline.com/health/food-nutrition/experts-is-sugar-addictive-drug

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/cravings/202209/is-sugar-addictive

https://brainmd.com/blog/what-do-sugar-and-cocaine-have-in-common/

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[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 7 points 11 months ago

Then you're here to quibble about stupid bullshit that doesn't matter instead of whether sugar is as addictive as hard drugs or not, which is the actual topic of the thread.

Thanks for proving my point

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 11 months ago

The papers referenced put mice on a diet that doesn't have sugar, carbohydrates. And then they allow them to self-select between sugar, and other drugs. And they observe the behavior. That's where the sugar is as addictive as cocaine comes from.

Quibbling over casual vocabulary is pointless, it's the setup of the experiments that matters as far as the as addictive as cocaine metric matters

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 10 points 11 months ago

You could have simply said that instead of derailing the thread to talk about apples and it would have gone a lot more smoothly for you.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 11 months ago

Your anger is misplaced. I did not make an analogy to apples at all. The person you are referencing is not me

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