Yup! A big bowl of carbs to start the day, spikes glucose, spiking insulin for 2-4 hours... which drives a hypoglycemic dip, which drives hunger.... and a day of constantly snacking on carbs begins
fun fact - the body doesnt store glucose, we only have the 5g of glucose floating around in the blood.... no wonder we get hungry so fast when we are in a glucose metabolism
This lack of formal training and examination may be why the old talking points like cico, eat less move more, fiber, whole grains, etc are so persistent and why so many MDs repeat them.
Histamines are heat-stable, you can destroy the bacteria that created them, but not them. This is the same rational in why cooking rotten food doesn't make it safe to eat.
If you suspect an allergy or other issue stemming from a single food, eliminate that food for a time period.
That is a valid strategy, but it does take a long time. Remove one item, wait 4 weeks, repeat.
Everything you’re saying, especially trying to defend yourself via Hippocrates quote, is giving heavy fad diet vibes.
It's only a 30 day suggestion.
I'm aware of them, but they do have lots of inputs, they are structured to eliminate FODMAPs a type of carbohydate... there are other 30 day elimination protocols that are simpler and have less variables (i.e. removing all carbohydrates).
The reason I mentioned them at all is its a option for people who are plant based, since its impossible to eliminate all carbs on that eating pattern.
The pathogens, the bacteria, can produce histamines, the more surface area exposed to air, the more opportunities for this bacteria to produce histamines on the meat.
Sorry, I probably used the wrong word, bacteria can produce histamines as one of their byproducts. More surface area exposed to the atmosphere creates more opportunities for histamine producing bacteria to produce histamines on the meats newly expanded surface.
Grinding is a process where the inside of the meat becomes the outside of the meat, dramatically increasing the surface area, more surface area for pathogens to multiply over time. If you grind the beef and immediately cook it, then its really not a issue. However, most people buy pre-ground beef which sits around for awhile.
None, I'm just a dude, who loves to read about nutrition, and who has seen people get great results doing some form of elimination protocol from the most gradual of 'no processed foods' on up.
The protein requirements of a human don't change based on diet. For someone following the most common omnivore eating pattern they are already eating 15% of their energy from animal sources (i.e. the meat)... Carnivore means taking the other 75% and replacing it with fat.
Carnivore shouldn't be scary - you are already eating the meat, its just swapping the plants with natural unprocessed sources of fat.
The total muscle meat consumed stays about the same... however, the people who try it tend to get more healthy and energetic and as they become more active their protein requirements scale up a bit... but that is a happy side effect.
Effectively - switch to more fatty cuts of meat, more butter, cooking fats from animal fat instead of oil. And.... let's be honest, most people have a few extra kg they want to lose, so the body will naturally use that fat source too!
Yes, its generative, but it illustrates the idea
I was going to post on !fedimemes@feddit.uk but that instance has a no generative content policy.
I think a major limiter on lemmy growth are the instances that encourage talk of violence, crime, being abusive to others, and are just generally super combative... maybe not written into the instance rules, but as demonstrated by what instance admins don't enforce on their own users.
I know a schism is scary for a small society like lemmy, but I'm starting to think its necessary
if not a defederation, some protocol level whitelisting of users or comms that demonstrate the bare minimum of being able to play nicely with others (realizing this would take some novel work - like adding a user level whitelist to federation rather then the current banlist, and while were at it some eventual consistency in meta-state in bans)
Basically, the toxicity needs to be partitioned off, gated, or some level of meta-moderation for instances that wont police themselves to minimum levels of behavior. It's embarrassing to share lemmy with people I know now, given how off the wall it quickly gets.
TLDR: Keto avoids liver disease
Background and Aims: - Metabolic dysfunction–associated steatotic liver disease (MASLD) and its progressive form, metabolic dysfunction–associated steatohepatitis (MASH), can lead to significant morbidity and mortality in adults with type 2 diabetes (T2D) and obesity. This study evaluated whether participation in an individualized, nutrition-focused telemedicine care model emphasizing carbohydrate reduction (Virta Individualized Nutrition Therapy, VINT) was associated with reduced onset of MASLD, MASH, and advanced liver disease.
Approach and Results: - Adults with T2D, prediabetes, overweight,or obesity who enrolled in VINT (2015–2024) were identified in the Komodo Healthcare Map and matched 1:1 to usual care (UC) controls (n=5031 per group). Using 3 complementary analytic approaches, incidence and time-to-event analyses were performed for new-onset liver disease. Across all strategies, VINT participants consistently showed a lower incidence of any liver-related diagnosis (27.3 vs. 42.8 per 1000 person-years; HR=0.61, p<0.001), MASH-and-beyond (4.2 vs. 10.7; HR=0.38, p<0.001), advanced liver disease (2.8 vs. 8.7; HR=0.33, p<0.001), and any liver complications (2.0 vs. 7.7; HR=0.25, p<0.001). VINT participants who lost ≥15% body weight were at lower risk of new-onset liver disease (21.2 vs. 31.8 per 1000 person-years; HR=0.66, p=0.02) compared with VINT participants who lost less weight.
Conclusions: - Participation in individualized nutrition-focused telemedicine care was associated with significantly lower incidence and risk of new-onset MASLD, MASH, and advanced liver disease. These findings support lifestyle-first interventions that are potentially scalable to reduce liver disease burden in adults with T2D and obesity.
Full Paper - https://doi.org/10.1097/HEP.0000000000001713
That puts us at 0.006% of the global population. How did I arrive at 500k? I kinda made it up based on carnivore study populations, but its super duper tiny. I looked everywhere, I can't really find a solid estimate. But we are totally in the dozens of us category.
I NEVER meet another zero carb carnivore anywhere organically. Plus there is huge stigma for being a carnivore. EVERYONE thinks I'm crazy.
Using ipsos (broad strokes good enough) for the other eating pattern data
It's fine to be a minority group. Live and let live.
There are some people who simply cannot suffer us in our little corner of the internet at all. My poor little community script runs every day and bans many accounts for just downvoting all the posts in the community. https://discuss.online/modlog/696952
I've dug into the many of the non-obvious-sockpuppet accounts, and it seems most of the hate directed at us comes from our nearest neighbor at 3% total population. A group 500x more popular.
I really wish we could just be friends, let's agree that whole foods, totally unprocessed is good, and leave each other alone as allies in improving everyone's health. I'd like that. This childish animosity doesn't help anyone.
Perhaps this is just the cost of being a small fringe eating pattern, easy target for other less small groups to hate.
Eyeballing daily active users on the fediverse it looks like we have about 7,000 unique users every day. There are about 3 carnivores - which puts us at 0.04% of the lemmy population.
TLDR: Seed oils (vegetable oils) ARE NOT food. They are a modern invention of the industrial petrochemical complex (1915), humans are not suited to long term consumption of these food substitutes.
Conclusion - The consumption of the omega-6 polyunsaturated fat linoleic acid has dramatically increased in the western world primarily in the form of vegetable oils. OxLDL is thought to play an important role in atherosclerosis formation; however, it is the oxidised linoleic acid contained in LDL that leads to harmful OXLAMs, which induces atherosclerosis and CHD. Thus, reducing the amount of dietary linoleic acid, mainly from industrial vegetable/seed oils, will reduce the amount of linoleic acid in LDL and likely reduce oxLDL as well as the risk for CHDcoronary heart disease.
In summary, numerous lines of evidence show that the omega-6 polyunsaturated fat linoleic acid promotes oxidative stress, oxidised LDL, chronic low-grade inflammation and atherosclerosis, and is likely a major dietary culprit for causing CHD, especially when consumed in the form of industrial seed oils commonly referred to as ‘vegetable oils’.
Full Opinion https://doi.org/10.1136/openhrt-2018-000898
Objective: To examine the relation between the consumption or avoidance of meat and psychological health and well-being.
Methods: A systematic search of online databases (PubMed, PsycINFO, CINAHL Plus, Medline, and Cochrane Library) was conducted for primary research examining psychological health in meat-consumers and meat-abstainers. Inclusion criteria were the provision of a clear distinction between meat-consumers and meat-abstainers, and data on factors related to psychological health. Studies examining meat consumption as a continuous or multi-level variable were excluded. Summary data were compiled, and qualitative analyses of methodologic rigor were conducted. The main outcome was the disparity in the prevalence of depression, anxiety, and related conditions in meat-consumers versus meat-abstainers. Secondary outcomes included mood and self-harm behaviors.
Results: Eighteen studies met the inclusion/exclusion criteria; representing 160,257 participants (85,843 females and 73,232 males) with 149,559 meat-consumers and 8584 meat-abstainers (11 to 96 years) from multiple geographic regions. Analysis of methodologic rigor revealed that the studies ranged from low to severe risk of bias with high to very low confidence in results. Eleven of the 18 studies demonstrated that meat-abstention was associated with poorer psychological health, four studies were equivocal, and three showed that meat-abstainers had better outcomes. The most rigorous studies demonstrated that the prevalence or risk of depression and/or anxiety were significantly greater in participants who avoided meat consumption.
Conclusion: Studies examining the relation between the consumption or avoidance of meat and psychological health varied substantially in methodologic rigor, validity of interpretation, and confidence in results. The majority of studies, and especially the higher quality studies, showed that those who avoided meat consumption had significantly higher rates or risk of depression, anxiety, and/or self-harm behaviors. There was mixed evidence for temporal relations, but study designs and a lack of rigor precluded inferences of causal relations. Our study does not support meat avoidance as a strategy to benefit psychological health.
Full Paper - https://doi.org/10.1080/10408398.2020.1741505
a bowl of cereal and frozen fruit.... both are filled with carbs, the cereal will turn into glucose quite quickly, the frozen fruit will convert a bit (a few minutes) slowly, and it has some fructose as well, plus it has a bit of fiber a anti-nutrient which can block the other food your eating... so a slightly delayed glucose spike, maybe muting a bit of the cereal carbs.
I suspect your glucose is still spiking with a slight delay, if you want to see it you can get a CGM and eat the different foods and look at the real time graph of blood glucose.