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dam Kavanaugh gave up a high paying career in the mining industry of Australia to live out in nature as our ancestors have since time immemorial.

Adam faced a number of health issues and turned to a "caveman diet" and lifestyle, which completely reversed them. After travelling Australia twice and spending 4 months in the wilds of Africa, he decided to make this a lifestyle and left his career in the mines for the Outback. There he hunts and fishes with the Aboriginal Australians, takes adventure hungry people out on survival tours, and has even made it through Naked and Afraid. Come hear his amazing story and get a glimpse of what life is like when you go back to nature. Enjoy!

summerizerAdam Kavanagh and the setting

  • Adam Kavanagh was back in civilization for car repairs while preparing to return to remote off-grid bush life.
  • He had travelled around Australia for more than six years after almost nine years as a coal miner.
  • His health problems began around age 23 with nausea, swollen eyes, and reactions after certain foods.
  • At about 26, thyroid episodes brought rapid weight loss, high heart rate, severe anxiety, and depression.
  • Doctors did blood tests, did not identify Graves disease, and did not give him a clear cause.
  • Bread and some foods made him feel worse, but that connection was not taken seriously at the time.

Diet, thyroid symptoms, and leaving shift work

  • A thyroid book led him to try a caveman-style diet, so he emptied the fridge and went paleo.
  • Paleo and whole foods gave him immediate improvement and started a longer sequence of diet experiments.
  • Shift work, especially night shift, seemed to trigger panic attacks, so he used saved sick leave to avoid nights.
  • He spent his off stretches fishing, hunting, camping, and being in the bush, and he felt better there.
  • He moved from ordinary camping toward barefoot time, zinc for sun exposure, and longer periods outdoors.
  • Four months in Africa away from work left him feeling vibrant, so he quit mining and chose bush life.

Learning the bush and Indigenous connections

  • The original plan was just to travel Australia and chase adventure, not to become fully off-grid.
  • Ordinary camping became less comfortable, more remote, and more focused on bush skills.
  • Indigenous friends taught him other ways of hunting, fishing, moving through country, and reading seasons.
  • He met one Indigenous friend through a pub fishing invitation, then reconnected two years later and joined his community.
  • He sees access to that community and land as rare, and he counts it as a privilege.
  • In the bush he mostly gets food through hunting, fishing, and foraging, while town time means butcher food.

Hunting methods and animal choice

  • He mostly bow hunts, fishes, and sometimes uses persistence hunting to run animals down and catch them by hand.
  • The animals include goats, pigs, scrub cattle, and wild cattle, with native animals only in permitted Indigenous contexts.
  • Heat, water carrying, and sprinting matter more in his chases than multi-day endurance pursuit.
  • Bow hunting feels fair because he must get close enough for the animal to smell, see, or evade him.
  • Catching large animals came from learning with Indigenous men who handle cattle, horses, and wild animals constantly.
  • Seasons matter because kangaroos, wallabies, birds, fish, and other foods are better when they are fat and in good condition.

Fat, wild meat, organs, and satiety

  • Indigenous hunting focuses on fatty animals and fatty cuts because those animals taste better and give more energy.
  • Wild meat makes him feel stronger, leaner, and more defined while eating less than he eats in town.
  • Older, grass-fed, wild, or naturally fed animals taste richer and feel more satisfying than mild town meat.
  • Wild organ meats taste fresher to him than store organ meats, which often have stronger smell from storage.
  • Time with Indigenous hunters changed what he saw as edible, including organs and testicles.
  • He cooks wild pork thoroughly, while he has eaten raw beef and raw beef liver.

Meat handling, cooking, and preservation

  • In hot northern weather he harvests late, lets meat cool overnight when possible, and uses airflow over gum leaves.
  • He uses a solar fridge in the car, so storage space and heat limit how long meat can sit.
  • Ribs often go straight into hot coals, while other meat goes into a cast-iron pan or a ground oven.
  • Tough meat is slow-cooked, minced, air-dried, smoked, or turned into pemmican with rendered fat.
  • He has not personally seen much food preservation in the Indigenous camps he visits; fresh food is usually obtained when needed.
  • Pemmican is his travel food, and hand-mincing a whole bull was hard work.

Naked and Afraid and survival food

  • Naked and Afraid was a 21-day desert survival challenge and one of his most transformative experiences.
  • The food problem relied less on hunting and more on low-energy foraging, traps, scoops, crabs, fish, and yabbies.
  • A woven scoop and simple baiting methods produced more food than flashy survival ideas.
  • Honey from a cave full of bees became the biggest food reward after a long period of hunger.
  • He finished the 21 days with his partner and would like to try longer survival formats.
  • Alone interests him because ten items would open more options, though cold and low body fat would be brutal.

Current diet and plant tolerance

  • Paul Chek's diet typing put him near the polar pattern: mostly meat with only a small plant garnish.
  • Paleo worked for years, but pushing toward plant-based eating brought bloating, diarrhea, and worsening symptoms.
  • Removing plants through carnivore gave him the best health he had felt and calmed his gut enough to reintroduce some foods.
  • Eggs and some other foods became tolerable again after a strict carnivore period.
  • Carnivore remains his reset and safe zone when starches or too many plants flare gut symptoms.
  • He still tests small amounts of plants because survival may require using whatever food is available.

Plant toxins, autoimmune issues, and reactions

  • The talk links plant defense chemicals, lectins, gluten, gut barrier damage, and autoimmune sensitivity.
  • He has a celiac gene, severe gluten reactions, and dairy problems, while autoimmune blood work has been unclear.
  • On strict carnivore he held more muscle without training and felt more robust.
  • On Naked and Afraid, water reeds, acacia beans, and starchy plant foods brought diarrhea, mouth rashes, split lips, and clear intake limits.
  • Wild berries in Indigenous country felt easier for him than many other plant foods, but Australian wild plants can be highly toxic.
  • Meat, bugs, crabs, and other animal foods gave him steadier food value with fewer reactions.

Community, sharing, and guided bush trips

  • In remote Indigenous communities he sees many health problems alongside easy access to bread, sugar, flour, soft drink, and shop food.
  • He does not force advice; he hunts, fishes, eats his way, and hopes the example renews interest in wild food.
  • Hunting is usually communal, and larger kills are shared among families.
  • Sometimes he gets asked to bring back a cow or pig when a fridge is empty or a vehicle is broken.
  • He now takes small numbers of people into the bush for about ten days with no food brought in.
  • The trip is hard because the group eats only what it catches, and failure means hunger.
  • Most outings with Indigenous friends are hunting and fishing, with wet-season swimming, berry picking, caves, barramundi, wallabies, pigs, and cattle depending on season.

References

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I’ll have to do extra pilates, oh nooo, so bad /s

But your not eating any protein, so where will the protein come from to repair your body after pilates?

OMAD is a great tool for weight management (which it sounds like your trying to do), but if your under eating essential building blocks for your body during your eating window your basically just replicating the Minnesota starvation experiment..... which isn't great.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 15 hours ago

The study you linked is about the effect of phytosterols on Vitamin D adsorption from an oral source. It says nothing about Vitamin D production from sunlight.

The point was to demonstrate plant sterols have a impact on the bodies cholesteral systems including vitamin d production and absorption.

So the study itself says “for actual evidence, we’d need more data”.

Literally every paper ever written says that. We always need more studies, that's the nature of curiosity. In fact professors have to admonish grad students not to add that to papers since its just filler at this point.


I'm not sure what your core thesis is: Vitamin D is not relevant in sun exposure?

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jid.2017.04.040 -

Oral Vitamin D Rapidly Attenuates Inflammation from Sunburn: An Interventional Study

The diverse immunomodulatory effects of vitamin D are increasingly being recognized. However, the ability of oral vitamin D to modulate acute inflammation in vivo has not been established in humans. In a double-blinded, placebo-controlled interventional trial, 20 healthy adults were randomized to receive either placebo or a high dose of vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) one hour after experimental sunburn induced by an erythemogenic dose of UVR. Compared with placebo, participants receiving vitamin D3 (200,000 international units) demonstrated reduced expression of proinflammatory mediators tumor necrosis factor-α (P = 0.04) and inducible nitric oxide synthase (P = 0.02) in skin biopsy specimens 48 hours after experimental sunburn. A blinded, unsupervised hierarchical clustering of participants based on global gene expression profiles revealed that participants with significantly higher serum vitamin D3 levels after treatment (P = 0.007) demonstrated increased skin expression of the anti-inflammatory mediator arginase-1 (P = 0.005), and a sustained reduction in skin redness (P = 0.02), correlating with significant expression of genes related to skin barrier repair. In contrast, participants with lower serum vitamin D3 levels had significant expression of proinflammatory genes. Together the data may have broad implications for the immunotherapeutic properties of vitamin D in skin homeostasis, and implicate arginase-1 upregulation as a previously unreported mechanism by which vitamin D exerts anti-inflammatory effects in humans.

Yes, its oral, but it demonstrates that vitamin D is a necessary part of the bodies sun exposure mechanisms. i.e. its produced on demand to treat the damage the sun is doing to the skin.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 16 hours ago

I really enjoy having discussions with people, when they clearly use AI to throw papers at me, which they haven't read, which they don't want to discuss, it's such fun.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 5 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

If that's your omad meal, you're setting yourself up for failure. That doesn't have enough fat or protein to satisfy your body, and your metabolism is going to down regulate in response.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I promise you, if you live in an RV, you are not anonymous. You're the dude who lives in an RV, every body knows who you are in your community.

If you want to be anonymous, blend in with the crowd, do the average thing everybody is doing, you'll not stand out and people will just forget they've ever seen you.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Why are you doing low kcal? What is your goal?

If your trying to lose weight you would be much better off, and happier, doing low carb and still eating.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've done the same thing on lineageos using xwindows. A little clunk to be sure. And the phone ran HOT, but it worked.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

healthline is not a primary source.

Hope they uncover the mechanism soon.

No money in nutritional approaches to health, so don't hold your breath!

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The premise for his argument is “humans produce vitamin D as a sunscreen”.

The argument is that plant sterols interfere with cholesterol function, impacting systems all over the body including vitamin d production.

Well yeah, maybe…or maybe not, who the fuck knows without any evidence?

https://doi.org/10.1159/000337881 -

Effect of Plant Sterols on Vitamin D AbsorptionCholecalciferol (vitamin D 3 ) is either obtained from the diet or produced photochemically in the skin from 7-dehydrocholesterol, which is produced in relatively large quantities from cholesterol in the gut1 and is accumulated in the skin [1]. Since plant sterols and stanols alter micelle formation and decrease absorption of cholesterol, it is possible that absorption of fat-soluble nutrients including fat soluble vitamins is also affected.

The objective was to examine if plant sterols interfere with the absorption and possibly the synthesis of vitamin D3 . A randomized study was conducted in 40 apparently healthy adult volunteers aged 18–60 years who received orally either 25000 IU vitamin D 3 (group A, n = 20) or 25000 IU vitamin D3 together with 2 g plant sterols (Group B, n = 20). Levels of Vitamin D 3 , 25-hydroxyvitamin D 3 , calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, cholesterol and parathyroid hormone were measured in blood taken immediately before consumption of Vitamin D 3 and at 12 h, 24 h and 168 h (7 days) after administration of Vitamin D 3 . Serum vitamin D 3 concentration increased significantly in both groups at 12 h and 24 h and 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 at 168 h after the consumption of vitamin D. Group B had lower vitamin D 3 levels 12 hours and 24 hours after administration and lower 25-hydroxyvitamin D 3 levels at 168 h after administration.

Hence, inhibiting the absorption of cholesterol may also affect the absorption of vitamin D 3 . Long term (> 4 weeks) administration of sterols is needed to investigate the impact on Vitamin D absorption and consequently its metabolism.

It's well known seed oils will lower LDL cholesterol, this is a direct demonstration of their impact on the bodies hormone system, and cholesterol functioning. This is not a good thing.

For the love of god (and especially your children), eat what you want, but don’t tell people it has magical powers and lets them avoid skin cancer,

Cancer happens all the time, right now at this very second both you and I have cancer cells in our bodies - typically not enough to overwhelm us and we survive (typically). The magical power is keeping the body healthy so immune function is excellent, so that the homeostatic machinery can do its job.

unless you have really solid medical proof from large studies on your side.

https://doi.org/10.1111/joim.12496

Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major causes of death: a competing risk analysis of the Melanoma in Southern Sweden cohort

Results Women with active sun exposure habits were mainly at a lower risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD) and noncancer/non-CVD death as compared to those who avoided sun exposure. As a result of their increased survival, the relative contribution of cancer death increased in these women. Nonsmokers who avoided sun exposure had a life expectancy similar to smokers in the highest sun exposure group, indicating that avoidance of sun exposure is a risk factor for death of a similar magnitude as smoking. Compared to the highest sun exposure group, life expectancy of avoiders of sun exposure was reduced by 0.6–2.1 years.

Conclusion The longer life expectancy amongst women with active sun exposure habits was related to a decrease in CVD and noncancer/non-CVD mortality, causing the relative contribution of death due to cancer to increase.

More sun exposure more cancer, but longer life....... so doing everything with a focus on avoiding all types of cancer may (may) be counter productive. You will note Dr Mason didn't tell you to not use sunscreen, and didn't tell you to stop avoiding the sun, he only talked about vitamin D function and how carnivores report not getting sunburn - it's not a recommendation for behavior.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I think the body stops making Vitamin D from the sun when it already has enough to prevent overdose.

Citation please.

So can it really protect you after a certain point?

The body is all about homeostasis - Carnivores report not getting sunburned after long term adaptation, we don't know the exact mechanisms actually. There is lots of speculation about photosensitizing chemicals, cholesterol function, etc. Regardless of the exact mechanism the thesis is simple: modern eating has a impact on our ability to endure sun exposure and repair damage.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 17 hours ago

My go to snacks are cheese (i know, i know....), canned tuna, and beef jerky

 

No need to snack, but.... if you must....

She has put the work in

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 19 hours ago

i would love to see a study on keto vs carnivore sun protective effects

 

Peripheral neuropathy is not caused by high glucose alone, but by the combined effects of hyperglycemia, insulin resistance, and glycemic variability. Protecting nerves requires improving insulin sensitivity and reducing glucose swings—not just lowering A1C.

summerizerCore thesis

  • Neuropathy is not just a blood sugar problem; lowering glucose alone does not fully save the nerve.
  • In type 1 diabetes, intensive glycemic control can prevent neuropathy very effectively, but in type 2 diabetes the same glucose-focused move leaves much of the problem untouched.
  • The nerve is hit by three forces at once: hyperglycemia, insulin resistance, and glycemic variability.
  • Together, those forces make neuropathy a metabolic failure of nerve fuel handling, repair signaling, and oxidative injury.

Peripheral neuropathy basics

  • Peripheral neuropathy is damage to nerves outside the brain and spinal cord.
  • Motor fibers drive muscle action, sensory fibers carry information from skin, joints, and organs, and autonomic fibers regulate heart rate, blood pressure, gut motility, and sweating.
  • The common metabolic pattern is distal symmetric polyneuropathy, a length-dependent process where the longest nerves fail first.
  • Symptoms usually begin in toes and feet, move up the legs, and later reach the fingertips.
  • Numbness, tingling, burning pain, or loss of vibration sensation comes from small nerve endings that retract and die.
  • Skin biopsy can show fewer small nerve endings, and nerve-conduction testing can show slower signals.
  • Cardiovascular autonomic neuropathy affects heart and blood-pressure nerves, and small-fiber neuropathy may be an early manifestation.
  • Diabetic peripheral neuropathy is very common, drives foot ulcers and non-traumatic lower-limb amputations, and can show up before formal diabetes.

Pillar 1 -- Hyperglycemia

  • Peripheral neurons and Schwann cells take up glucose through insulin-independent transporters, so high blood glucose floods the nerve without an effective shutoff.
  • Excess intracellular glucose pushes the sorbitol pathway: aldose reductase converts glucose to sorbitol.
  • Sorbitol stays inside the cell, pulls in water, creates osmotic stress, and forces the nerve to export useful small molecules.
  • Myo-inositol loss weakens sodium-potassium pump function, which slows the electrical signal.
  • Aldose reductase consumes NADPH, leaving less NADPH to regenerate active glutathione and defend against free radicals.
  • High glucose also glycates proteins and lipids without enzyme control, creating advanced glycation end products over months and years.
  • AGEs damage long-lived nerve proteins, myelin, cytoskeleton, and the basement membrane of tiny vessels feeding the nerve.
  • AGE binding to RAGE triggers inflammatory signaling in nerve-support tissue and blood vessels.

Pillar 2 -- Insulin resistance

  • In type 2 diabetes, hyperglycemia is usually downstream of insulin resistance, and insulin resistance injures nerves partly apart from glucose.
  • In type 1 diabetes cohorts, neuropathy risk tracks with modifiable cardiovascular and metabolic-syndrome factors such as triglycerides, BMI, smoking, and hypertension.
  • In type 2 diabetes and obesity, human studies connect neuropathy with metabolic syndrome components independent of glycemic status.
  • Lifestyle intervention in impaired-glucose-tolerance neuropathy produced measurable cutaneous reinnervation after one year.
  • Physiological insulin is a trophic signal for peripheral neurons and Schwann cells.
  • Schwann cells make myelin and support axons; insulin and IGF-1 receptor signaling help them make the lipids needed for myelin.
  • When insulin and IGF-1 receptors were deleted specifically in mouse Schwann cells, fatty-acid and cholesterol synthesis dropped and sensory neuropathy developed despite normal glucose.
  • In insulin resistance, the Schwann cell loses effective insulin signaling while chronic hyperinsulinemia and lipotoxicity promote harmful lipid accumulation.
  • The nerve can therefore be deprived of repair, remyelination, and Schwann-cell support even when glucose is normal or only intermittently high.

Pillar 3 -- Glycemic variability

  • A1C is a one-dimensional average of a dynamic glucose signal.
  • Two people can share an A1C of 7%, while one stays near 100-140 mg/dL and another swings between about 60 and over 200 mg/dL.
  • The swings matter because intermittent hyperglycemia can drive more endothelial oxidative stress than a steadier glucose exposure with the same average.
  • Each upward excursion is another hit on the NADPH-superoxide system, without enough time for the nerve to adapt.
  • CGM studies now make those swings visible.
  • In type 2 diabetes with A1C below 7%, higher mean amplitude of glycemic excursions was an independent predictor of diabetic peripheral neuropathy.
  • Nerve-conduction work also linked higher MAGE with reduced compound nerve action potential amplitude.
  • Long-term HbA1c variability and fasting-plasma-glucose variability were also linked with diabetic peripheral neuropathy and painful diabetic peripheral neuropathy.
  • Time in range and time in tight range may matter as much as average glucose for nerve protection.

Why the diabetes types diverge

  • In type 1 diabetes, exogenous insulin can address average glucose and modern tools can reduce variability, while underlying insulin resistance is usually absent.
  • Intensive glycemic control therefore captures much of the neuropathy benefit in type 1 diabetes.
  • In type 2 diabetes, lowering A1C can leave insulin resistance and glycemic variability largely intact.
  • Prediabetes and metabolic syndrome can injure small fibers even when A1C is normal because insulin resistance and post-meal excursions are already active.

Practical model

  • The burning foot or tingling finger should not be reduced to "your sugar is too high."
  • The better model is three simultaneous attacks: hyperglycemia, loss of insulin signaling at Schwann cells, and glucose volatility.
  • You cannot out-A1C metabolic neuropathy.
  • The solution has to improve all three pillars: carbohydrate control, fasting protocols that stabilize glucose and improve insulin sensitivity, resistance exercise, and better sleep habits.

References

 

If you have nagging hypertension that you have been ignoring - be aware that a low carbohydrate diet is a highly effective way to address the underlying condition and resolve your hypertension.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/blood-pressure#lifestyle

 

Dr. Ben Bikman explores the misunderstood role of glucagon, insulin’s often-overlooked metabolic counterpart.

While insulin encourages fat storage and glucose uptake, glucagon signals the body to mobilize and burn stored energy. Contrary to popular belief, glucagon does not stimulate fat release from adipose tissue in humans. Instead, its fat-burning effects occur primarily in the liver, where it enhances fatty acid oxidation, ketone production, and energy expenditure.

Glucagon’s power lies in shifting the metabolic balance through the insulin-to-glucagon ratio—a key determinant of whether the body stores or burns fat. Ben also unpacks the liver's molecular response to glucagon, including activation of mitochondrial fat-burning enzymes and ketone formation. Human studies now confirm that glucagon increases liver fat oxidation, making it a valuable target in new weight-loss drugs.

summerizerGlucagon and the insulin-to-glucagon ratio Glucagon sits beside insulin as the key counter-hormone in fat-loss metabolism.

  • Insulin drives glucose uptake, fat storage, and energy storage.
  • Glucagon drives glycogen breakdown, liver fat oxidation, and ketone production.
  • The insulin-to-glucagon ratio determines whether metabolism moves toward storage after carbohydrate intake or energy release during fasting and low carbohydrate intake.
  • Type 2 diabetes disrupts this system when insulin and glucagon are both high, leaving the liver with a glucose-output signal while tissues are insulin resistant.

The adipose-tissue misconception The textbook idea that glucagon directly pulls fat out of human adipose tissue is incorrect for humans.

  • Rodent data made glucagon look like a direct adipose lipolysis hormone through hormone-sensitive lipase activation.
  • Human white fat has very low or undetectable glucagon receptor expression in mature adipocytes.
  • The 2001 microdialysis work found no local glycerol rise in abdominal fat even with glucagon raised three to fourfold.
  • The 2020 human-adipocyte work found low and variable receptor expression and meaningful lipolysis only at superphysiological glucagon levels.
  • The 2022 adipocyte-specific receptor knockout mouse work found no change in fasting-induced lipolysis or body composition.
  • Human fat loss is not glucagon yanking triglycerides directly out of fat cells.

The liver mechanism Glucagon's fat-burning work occurs in the liver, where glucagon receptors are abundant.

  • Glucagon activates adenylate cyclase, raises cyclic AMP, activates PKA, and inactivates acetyl-CoA carboxylase.
  • Inactivating acetyl-CoA carboxylase stops new fat synthesis and removes malonyl-CoA inhibition of CPT1.
  • CPT1 then moves more fatty acids into mitochondria for oxidation.
  • Glucagon also increases CPT1 transcription through CREB, expanding the liver's capacity to burn fat.
  • The Yale Nature work connects glucagon to intrahepatic lipolysis through INSP3R1, calcium release, and ATGL.
  • The 2024 Cell Metabolism human study shows glucagon infusion raising hepatic mitochondrial oxidation by about 50% in fatty liver disease.

Ketones and the insulin brake Glucagon-driven liver fat oxidation connects to ketone production when insulin is low.

  • During fasting, oxaloacetate is diverted toward gluconeogenesis, leaving acetyl-CoA to condense into acetoacetate and beta-hydroxybutyrate.
  • Liver-cell work supports glucagon as a driver of fatty acid oxidation and ketogenesis.
  • The 2020 mouse work shows ketone production can persist without glucagon signaling during fasting.
  • Low insulin is necessary; high insulin can overpower glucagon's fat-burning and ketone-producing effects.

Drug implications and lifestyle implications GLP-1 drugs, dual agonists, and triple agonists show why glucagon biology matters clinically.

  • Semaglutide can produce about 15% weight loss over a little more than a year, mainly through appetite suppression, slower gastric emptying, and glucose control.
  • A Boehringer Ingelheim dual GLP-1/glucagon agonist at 4.8 mg produced about 14.7% weight loss over 46 weeks and stronger liver-fat effects than GLP-1 alone.
  • In MASH/NASH, the same dual-agonist program is tied to 83% biopsy-based steatohepatitis resolution versus 18% on placebo and improved fibrosis scores.
  • Retatrutide adds GIP to GLP-1 and glucagon and produced nearly 24% weight loss at 48 weeks at the highest dose.
  • These drugs are not routine standalone weight-loss tools; their strongest role is low-dose craving control paired with a smart low-carbohydrate diet.
  • Reduced carbohydrate intake and fasting can improve glucagon signaling by shifting the ratio toward fuel release.

References

 

Dr. Benjamin Bikman earned his Ph.D. in Bioenergetics and was a postdoctoral fellow with the Duke-National University of Singapore in metabolic disorders. He is currently a professor of pathophysiology and a biomedical scientist at Brigham Young University in Utah.

Dr. Bikman's professional focus as a scientist and professor is to better understand chronic modern-day diseases, with a special emphasis on the origins and consequences of obesity and diabetes, with an increasing scrutiny of the pathogenicity of insulin and insulin resistance. He frequently publishes his research in peer-reviewed journals and presents at international science meetings.

summerizerOpening and metabolic problem

  • Ben Bikman is a biomedical scientist focused on metabolic disorders, and the talk covers GLP-1 drugs, their consequences, and their use.
  • The worldwide rise in overweight, obesity, and insulin resistance is the metabolic problem that makes GLP-1 drugs relevant.
  • Insulin resistance affects more than half of adults worldwide and contributes to many plagues of prosperity.

Fat-cell biology and weight loss

  • Fat mass expands through larger fat cells, more fat cells, or both; the usual human pattern is hypertrophy.
  • Hypertrophic fat cells become insulin resistant because they run out of room to keep storing fat under insulin.
  • Large fat cells also become hypoxic, pro-inflammatory, and leaky with free fatty acids, which drives whole-body insulin resistance.
  • Metabolic weight loss means shrinking fat cells by reducing energy and reducing insulin.
  • Carbohydrate control and structured fasting lower insulin and help shrink fat cells, while simple calorie cutting plus exercise increases hunger.

Why GLP-1 became a drug target

  • The gut is a major endocrine organ, and incretins are gut hormones tied to blood-glucose control.
  • Gastric bypass data make GLP-1 central because diabetes markers can improve within about one week before major fat loss.
  • GLP-1 slows intestinal movement, signals the brain to reduce hunger, stimulates fat-cell lipolysis, supports ketogenesis, and suppresses glucagon.
  • GLP-1-based glutide drugs began as anti-diabetic medications because glucagon suppression lowers blood glucose; weight loss was initially a modest side effect.

High-dose consequences

  • The weight-loss versions are higher-dose versions of diabetes drugs, so the intestines can be slowed too much.
  • Excess gut slowing can reach intestinal paralysis, and body-weight loss can include substantial lean mass along with fat mass.
  • After stopping a GLP-1 drug, weight often returns, while lost lean mass may not return as readily, leaving a higher body-fat percentage.
  • Real-world persistence is poor: US and UK type 2 diabetes data show roughly two-thirds to 70% discontinuation by 24 months.

Insulin, fat-cell number, and receptor pressure

  • The idea that GLP-1 drugs disprove insulin control of fat storage is inaccurate; whole-body studies show insulin secretion can fall during GLP-1 exposure after meals.
  • GLP-1 agonists may also move preadipocytes toward differentiation, which can mean smaller fat cells during active weight loss but more capacity for later fat regain.
  • Chronic GLP-1 receptor agonism can make receptors less responsive and may lower endogenous GLP-1 production.

Drug combinations and food-based GLP-1 release

  • The next wave of obesity drugs pairs GLP-1 action with other appetite signals such as amylin, while muscle-preservation drugs are being tested for lean-mass loss.
  • Endogenous GLP-1 can be increased with soluble fiber, yerba mate, allulose, protein, and natural fats.
  • Saturated and monounsaturated natural fats produced much stronger GLP-1 responses than refined seed oil in the fat-comparison data, and recent low-carbohydrate meal data showed about triple the GLP-1 response of a low-fat meal.

Practical stance

  • Lower-dose GLP-1 drugs were more favorable, but higher-dose use makes dose the key issue.
  • The best use is the lowest effective dose under clinician guidance, especially where severe carbohydrate addiction blocks dietary control.
  • Any GLP-1 use belongs with structured resistance exercise and nutrient priority: essential amino acids and essential fats come first, while essential carbohydrates do not exist.
  • When appetite is low, focus on fats and prioritize protein.

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It's... not great best avoided.

Max German did a episode on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxdWD25llTU

Mostly a problem for US consumers

Red countries ban/limit it, white countries allow it (even if they don't use it domestically - like australia)

 

Perfect hiking food! Extremely energy dense.

As a delicate food - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SByTpVvRMoQ

Specifically for hiking - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rID8v4JZQ3M

Good source of energy, and vitamin d

 

Dr Anthony Chaffee is an American trained doctor practicing in Australia. In this video we discuss the carnivore diet, animal based diet, keto diet, diets effect on cortisol, dairy in all forms, fermented foods, chicken & pork vs beef, falsely elevated A1c, gluconeogenesis, vitamin C, creatine supplementation, adding carbs back to a carnivore diet, vegetable seed oils, Vitamin B1 & B12 deficiencies, how to eat eggs properly and much more

summerizerOpening thesis

  • Ken Berry brings Anthony Chaffee on for a "state of carnivore" update and for correction of myths after recent controversy.
  • Berry sees carnivore as a powerful 90-day intervention for chronic issues such as type 2 diabetes, prediabetes, acne, PCOS, menstrual problems, perimenopause, and fatty liver.
  • Chaffee is an American physician in Western Australia using carnivore, ketogenic diets, and lifestyle to improve metabolic health and reduce medication reliance.

Recent carnivore reversals

  • Berry sees the new "add carbs back" wave as recycled high-carbohydrate, low-fat advice, not a discovery.
  • The old food-pyramid pattern is the diet Berry grew up with and the diet he links to his mother's diabetes after decades.
  • Berry and Chaffee connect some reversals to views, business incentives, and fear around cortisol, thyroid, or long-term carnivore anecdotes.
  • Chaffee says long-term ketogenic trials and meta-analyses do not show persistent hypercortisolism; early cortisol rises remain normal and later settle.
  • Berry suspects some hidden hypercortisol syndromes surface because keto/carnivore patients and doctors check more labs.
  • Berry and Chaffee reject rice, fruit, or starch as magic fixes for metabolic dysfunction; short-term feeling better does not prove long-term health benefit.

Dairy

  • Chaffee says adults probably need no dairy for optimal nutrition because mammals are normally weaned onto the adult diet.
  • Dairy contains valuable fats, minerals, and fat-soluble vitamins, including odd-chain fatty acids, but it also contains lactose, insulin signals, and caseomorphins.
  • Berry and Chaffee see dairy as useful where it prevents malnutrition, but unnecessary and often counterproductive when meat and animal fat already supply nutrients.
  • Berry thinks fermented dairy such as yogurt or kefir may be less inflammatory than milk because fermentation reduces lactose and alters proteins, but it still is not a daily adult requirement.

Plants and fermentation

  • Chaffee explains "plants are trying to kill you" through plant defense chemistry, not literal intent.
  • He learned this from a cancer-biology professor who taught that edible plants can still contain carcinogenic or harmful natural toxins.
  • The speakers name lectins, oxalates, tannins, phytates, saponins, cyanogenic glycosides, goitrogens, and other plant compounds as possible chronic irritants.
  • Beans, almonds, and kale serve as examples of plant foods whose toxic load can require soaking, boiling, fermentation, crossbreeding, or restriction.
  • Berry adds that domestication, cooking, soaking, sprouting, roasting, and fermentation reduce phytotoxins but do not remove all of them.
  • Fermented vegetables and dairy are less toxic versions of plant or dairy foods, not essential foods.

Microbiome and oral health

  • Berry and Chaffee think microbiome science is still too immature for confident probiotic testing, supplement targeting, or species manipulation.
  • Chaffee thinks a carnivore diet can change the oral microbiome and that saliva may help seed the gut microbiome during meals.
  • They connect carbohydrate-fed oral bacteria with cavities, gingivitis, plaques, and glioblastoma-related findings.
  • Berry says gingivitis and periodontitis often go into remission after 90 days of carnivore in the people he has seen.
  • They use oral health as a proxy for overall health: a natural diet should not rot teeth.

Meat choices and daily eating

  • Chaffee says all meat is beneficial, and people should eat the meat they enjoy, tolerate, and can afford.
  • Ruminant meat may work better for autoimmunity, but pork, chicken, fish, and other meats are acceptable when enough fat is included.
  • Chaffee usually eats beef, eggs, and fatty steaks once daily, adding a second meal when training raises appetite.
  • Berry's baseline is also beef and eggs daily, with occasional pork, chicken, fish, cod liver, or sardines.

Labs, lipids, and A1C

  • Berry asks about Robert Sikes's concern that some carnivores develop high triglycerides, high glucose, low HDL, inflammation, rising A1C, and cortisol issues.
  • Berry sees mild A1C elevation on carnivore as often false or misleading when fructosamine is normal, possibly because red blood cells live longer.
  • Chaffee has rarely seen high triglycerides, low HDL, and pattern-B LDL in strict patients, and in his examples stress and poor sleep were the shared factor.
  • The speakers do not chase lab numbers alone; they focus on the patient, symptoms, context, sleep, stress, exercise, and diet creep.
  • Chaffee says daily hard training can raise glucose transiently and move A1C upward without meaning pathology.

Fruit, honey, fructose, and fatty liver

  • Berry worries about high-fruit and high-honey animal-based diets because A1C and fructosamine measure glucose glycation, not fructose glycation.
  • Research in the exchange indicates fructose is much more glycating than glucose and may create long-term vascular damage even without high A1C.
  • Chaffee warns that adding fruit and honey can slide into broader carb intake and weight regain for some people.
  • Berry and Chaffee connect fructose to fatty liver through hepatic metabolism and cite Lustig's child fructose-restriction work.
  • Foie gras serves as a practical example that carbohydrate overfeeding can fatten the liver rapidly.
  • Berry and Chaffee reject the idea that eating fat causes fatty liver because dietary fat enters lymphatics before the bloodstream, not direct liver loading.

Protein, gluconeogenesis, creatine, and vitamin C

  • Chaffee says protein does not force harmful gluconeogenesis; glucose production is demand-driven and often comes from glycerol during fat breakdown.
  • Berry and Chaffee reject the fear that ketogenic or carnivore eating causes muscle loss, using old-school steak-and-eggs bodybuilding as a counterexample.
  • Berry gets about 6 g creatine daily from meat and questions whether carnivore eaters need creatine powder.
  • Chaffee thinks meat supplies enough creatine for ordinary muscle and brain needs, while high-dose creatine may have a role after concussion or TBI.
  • Chaffee says carbohydrate intake raises vitamin C need and competes with vitamin C handling, while meat supplies hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine for collagen.
  • Berry says low measured vitamin C on near-zero-carb carnivore does not necessarily equal functional scurvy when wound healing is rapid.

Deficiencies, thyroid medication, and eggs

  • Berry has seen rare thiamine deficiency in narrow beef-only carnivores, resolved by adding pork.
  • Chaffee usually sees vitamins and minerals rise, but he checks B12, folate, zinc, magnesium, and malabsorption patterns when progress stalls.
  • Chaffee found coffee timing could block thyroid medication absorption in many patients, requiring one to two hours before coffee.
  • Chaffee uses low B12 despite meat or liver intake as a clue for MTHFR issues, malabsorption, or pernicious anemia antibodies.
  • Berry and Chaffee see egg sensitivity as uncommon and often linked to egg whites; Berry thinks fertilized backyard eggs may be better tolerated.

Carbohydrates, anthropology, and diabetes history

  • Dietary carbohydrate is nonessential, and the National Academies/Institute of Medicine language gives zero as the lower limit with adequate protein and fat.
  • Chaffee says human insulin fits protein better than carbohydrate spikes because modern rapid insulin had to be engineered for glucose excursions.
  • Berry and Chaffee connect agricultural grains, sugar, and starch with dental decay, smaller bodies, smaller brains, and chronic disease after agriculture.
  • Chaffee says amylase gene expansion after agriculture means mass starch eating became common only recently in human history.
  • Berry and Chaffee say seed oils cannot be the only cause of metabolic disease because diabetes and carbohydrate restriction predate modern seed oils.
  • Chaffee cites Osler-era diabetes texts using near-zero carbohydrate, protein, and fat before insulin.

Fasting and cancer metabolism

  • Chaffee prefers intuitive feast-and-fast eating over deliberate food withholding when hungry.
  • He warns that fasting can backfire when people under-eat on feeding days and suppress metabolism.
  • He sees occasional 48-hour fasting as potentially useful for resetting hunger signals.
  • For cancer, fasting may lower glucose, raise ketones, reduce GKI, and reduce exogenous glutamine, but the glutamine piece remains unproven.
  • For most people, carnivore with hunger-based eating is enough; fasting is optional, not required.

References

 

Mitochondrial uncoupling allows cells to burn fuel while releasing more of that energy as heat instead of capturing it as ATP. Insulin appears to make fat-cell mitochondria more efficient and storage-oriented, while low insulin and elevated ketones may push fat tissue toward greater energy waste and easier fat loss.

In this Metabolic Classroom episode, Dr. Bikman explains mitochondrial uncoupling, a process where cells burn fuel without converting all of that energy into usable ATP. Normally, mitochondria are “coupled,” meaning fuel burning is efficiently converted into cellular energy. But when mitochondria become uncoupled, some of that fuel is released as heat instead—like revving a car engine while it’s in park.

Ben explains that this process is especially important in fat tissue. White fat is designed for energy storage and tends to be tightly coupled, while brown fat is rich in mitochondria and uncoupling proteins that burn fuel to generate heat. He then connects this physiology to insulin, showing that insulin appears to make fat-cell mitochondria more tightly coupled and efficient, lowering energy expenditure and making storage easier.

The opposite happens when insulin is low and ketones rise. Research from Dr. Bikman’s lab shows that ketones, especially beta-hydroxybutyrate, can increase mitochondrial respiration in fat cells without a matching rise in ATP production—clear evidence of uncoupling. In human fat biopsies, elevated ketones were associated with markedly higher mitochondrial respiration, suggesting that ketosis can make fat tissue more wasteful with energy.

The larger takeaway is that calories still matter, but hormones influence how efficiently those calories are stored or burned. When insulin is high, the body stores energy efficiently. When insulin is low and ketones are elevated, fat-cell mitochondria may become more uncoupled, allowing more energy to be dissipated as heat rather than stored as fat.

summerizerCore thesis

  • The body can burn calories without turning them into usable energy.
  • Mitochondria normally convert fuel into ATP, and uncoupling lets some fuel energy leak away as heat.
  • Insulin makes mitochondria more efficient and helps the body store energy more easily.
  • Low insulin with rising ketones makes mitochondria more uncoupled, so more energy leaves as heat and less is stored as fat.
  • Calories matter, and hormones help determine what the body does with those calories.

Mitochondrial coupling and uncoupling

  • Mitochondria are like a car engine: fuel burning is the RPM, and ATP production is the useful forward motion.
  • Coupling means fuel burning is linked to useful work: oxygen use, proton-gradient pressure, and ATP production move together.
  • Uncoupling means fuel burning continues while useful ATP output lags; the energy exits as heat.
  • Uncoupling is not a failure; it is a built-in way to waste fuel as heat.

Fat tissue and heat

  • White fat is the familiar pinchable fat built for storage, with tightly coupled mitochondria that conserve energy.
  • Brown fat is packed with mitochondria and uncoupling protein, so its job is heat production.
  • Newborns use brown fat for warmth because they cannot shiver enough with muscle.
  • Adults retain brown fat, and cold exposure activates it.
  • Adults with more brown fat activity tend to resist weight gain and its metabolic consequences.

Measuring coupling

  • The lab measures oxygen consumption as the engine speed and ATP production as the useful output.
  • Tight coupling means oxygen use and ATP production rise together.
  • Uncoupling means oxygen use stays high or rises while ATP production fails to keep pace.

Historical diabetes clue

  • Benedict and Joslin studied severe diabetes before insulin therapy was available.
  • The patients had what is now type 1 diabetes without insulin therapy: essentially no endogenous insulin.
  • They burned energy about 15% to 20% above the level expected from body size.
  • They were losing weight rapidly despite excess calorie intake.
  • A 1984 study with better instruments found the same pattern in type 1 diabetes, with measured expenditure around 2,040 kcal/day versus a predicted 1,700 kcal/day.
  • Insulin injection lowered energy expenditure within minutes, back toward the predicted level.
  • Glucose lost in urine explains some wasted calories but cannot explain a higher measured metabolic rate.
  • The missing mechanism points to mitochondria, including mitochondria inside fat tissue.

Insulin in fat mitochondria

  • The lab raised insulin chronically in rodents for several weeks and examined mitochondria in fat.
  • High insulin lowered mitochondrial respiration and shifted mitochondria toward tighter coupling.
  • Brown fat became much more tightly coupled, subcutaneous fat became more coupled, and visceral fat shifted little because it was already largely coupled.
  • Chronic high insulin lowered whole-body energy expenditure in the animals.
  • Insulin is the body’s storage signal: it directs fat cells to take up and hold fuel, and it makes their mitochondria more frugal.
  • This mechanism helps explain why insulin therapy often brings weight gain in type 1 diabetes and can make weight gain easier in type 2 diabetes.

Ketones as the opposing signal

  • When insulin is low from fasting, carbohydrate restriction, or type 1 diabetes without insulin, the liver turns fat into ketones.
  • Beta-hydroxybutyrate is the dominant ketone and works as both fuel and signal.
  • The lab tested ketones in cultured fat cells, rodent fat tissue, and human fat biopsies.
  • Across all three systems, ketones made fat mitochondria respire faster.
  • Cultured fat cells burned roughly 90% more energy; rodent tissue rose even more; human subcutaneous fat from people in ketosis rose 128% higher than non-ketotic comparison tissue.
  • ATP did not rise in proportion, creating the signature of uncoupling.
  • Gene activity for uncoupling machinery also increased with beta-hydroxybutyrate.

White fat can beige

  • White fat is not locked into a permanently frugal identity.
  • Under the right signals, especially ketones, subcutaneous white fat can build more mitochondria and take on brown-fat traits.
  • This browning or beiging makes storage fat behave partly like heat-producing fat.
  • Type 1 diabetes without insulin therapy combines very low insulin with high ketones, so the old 15% to 20% rise in metabolic rate fits the ketone-uncoupling mechanism.

Obesity model

  • The calories-only model and the insulin-hormone model are two halves of the same mechanism.
  • Calories provide the fuel; hormones determine how efficiently that fuel is stored or wasted as heat.
  • High insulin keeps fat-cell mitochondria tightly coupled, so calories are stored efficiently.
  • Low insulin with elevated ketones makes the same mitochondria leakier, so more calories leave as heat.
  • The fat-cell mitochondrion is where energy balance and hormone signaling meet.

Practical meaning

  • A very low-carbohydrate diet can create a metabolic advantage because more total energy is burned at equal calories.
  • Controlled human feeding studies have found roughly 200 to 300 kcal/day greater energy expenditure on very low carbohydrate intake in one study.
  • That extra calories-out can be comparable to a substantial exercise session.
  • Early fasting can raise resting energy expenditure while insulin falls and ketones rise.
  • Some fasting-related expenditure comes from the nervous system and epinephrine, but the timing matches the fat-mitochondria pattern.

Closing point

  • The type of calories eaten shapes the hormone environment they enter.
  • Chronically high insulin makes the body file fuel away with high efficiency.
  • Low insulin with ketones shifts fat-cell mitochondria toward the wasteful end of the dial.
  • Weight loss becomes easier when carbohydrates are controlled, insulin stays low, and fat mitochondria can be frivolous with energy.

References

 

Mikhaila Peterson's unpublished TEDx talk on the carnivore diet.

After 8 years of strict lion, she has been able to tolerate some plant foods, and is now about 95% carnivore now.

summerizer

TEDx and the lion diet

  • Mikhaila Peterson gave a TEDx talk about how the lion diet, an all-meat diet, put her autoimmune disorder into remission after crippling arthritis and two joint replacements.
  • Mikhaila Peterson followed TEDx rules carefully because her diet story is anecdotal, and she ended by asking the medical system to study it further.
  • TEDx would not post Mikhaila Peterson's talk after four months of back-and-forth, while other vegan disease-cure talks stayed available under guidelines they did not apply to her case.
  • Harvard later published a carnivore-diet study about others who had disease remission, so this diet deserves serious medical attention.

Early arthritis and immune suppression

  • At age two, Mikhaila Peterson began walking with her feet turned out, and by grade two she had juvenile rheumatoid arthritis active in 37 joints.
  • She used methotrexate and naproxen, had cortisone injected into 17 joints, could not sit cross-legged, and used a fat pencil because she could not close her hand.
  • In grade four, Enbrel and methotrexate injections put her into a medically induced remission, and she went from nearly wheelchair-bound to playing sports.
  • At the same time, her mental health collapsed into OCD symptoms, suicidal thoughts, major depressive disorder, and possible bipolar type 2 with hypomania.

Fatigue, pain, and more medication

  • By grade eight, she had biting sensations over her body and chronic fatigue so severe that she could not wake up and fell asleep in class.
  • By grade eleven, arthritis destroyed the cartilage in her right hip, pain stopped her from sleeping, and she used OxyContin before a hip replacement at 17.
  • While she healed from the hip replacement, her body destroyed the cartilage in her left ankle, and she later had that ankle replaced.
  • At university, Wellbutrin led to a grand mal seizure, an SNRI made her intensely angry, fatigue made her miss final exams, and she dropped out.

Rash and the search for diet triggers

  • After returning home, a rash spread from her back and bum to her face, and dermatologists gave no useful answer.
  • She was using Tylenol 3 for shoulder pain, 40 mg of Adderall to wake up, dapsone for skin healing, 40 mg of escitalopram for depression, an inhaler for infections, and a prescription antihistamine for severe allergies.
  • She found dermatitis herpetiformis, the skin manifestation of celiac disease, and cut gluten because celiac disease can be triggered by gluten.
  • She stopped immune suppressants, monitored symptoms closely, and kept searching because gluten removal was not enough.

Meat, greens, and the first remission

  • In September 2015, she reduced her diet to meat, greens, and some root vegetables while removing foods she thought could cause inflammation.
  • That month her skin healed for the first time in years, and she lost three pant sizes of bloating she had not known was there.
  • Two months in, her fatigue disappeared for the first time since grade eight, and she stopped taking Adderall.
  • Three months in, her depression disappeared for the first time in her life, and she stopped escitalopram over two weeks without knowing SSRI withdrawal existed.

Food reactions and withdrawal

  • After reintroducing soy, she had a severe autoimmune response: digestive upset, full-body itching, depression worse than ever, mouth ulcers, arthritis, and rash.
  • Around the same time, SSRI withdrawal mixed with autoimmune symptoms and food sensitivities, and each food reintroduction caused reactions that lasted 24 days.
  • She eventually stopped reintroducing foods, became pregnant, and later returned to meat and greens to control symptoms.
  • While breastfeeding, her wrist buckled, arthritis returned, she was itchy everywhere, and the earlier diet no longer worked.

Beef, lamb, salt, and water

  • She cut out everything except beef, and after two weeks the itching went away and her joints began to feel better.
  • Six weeks into the all-beef diet, her depression lifted and she stopped crying in the morning.
  • Five months later, her anxiety lifted, and she felt back in heaven compared with how she had been living.
  • The diet became beef, lamb, salt, and water, which she calls the lion diet.

Family results and medical attention

  • Her mother used the diet and her osteoarthritis went away; her father used it and lost 70 pounds, and his GERD and psoriasis went away.
  • She has heard from thousands of people with autoimmune disorders who tried similar diets and saw similar results.
  • She now runs a company, hosts a podcast, raises her child, and shares her experience so people can see what the diet does for her.
  • Sick people feel isolated and miserable, and what would be really cool is the medical community taking this seriously and doing case studies.

References

 

Anorexia nervosa has one of the highest mortality rates of any psychiatric illness, yet effective biological treatments remain limited. For many people living with the condition, even after successful weight normalization, persistent psychological symptoms, including obsessive thoughts about food, shape, and weight, continue to drive relapse.

In this conversation, Dr. Bret Scher sits down with Dr. Guido Frank, Professor of Psychiatry at UC San Diego with over 25 years of experience in eating disorder treatment, to discuss results from the first-ever clinical trial of ketogenic therapy in anorexia nervosa.

This 14-week supervised feasibility trial enrolled 22 individuals with weight-normalized anorexia nervosa.

summerizerKetogenic nutrition and anorexia nervosa

  • Ketogenic nutrition entered this work because anorexia nervosa remains severe, deadly, and biologically hard to move with current care.
  • Weight restoration is necessary, but it often leaves fears about eating, body shape, and weight intact or worse.
  • The unresolved clinical problem is the persistent drive for weight loss after weight normalization and the high relapse risk after intensive care.
  • Barbara Scolnick's niece's recovery with ketogenic nutrition and the later five-person pilot made this pathway worth testing.
  • The working model is that ketogenic metabolism can affect brain energy, anxiety, and eating-disorder thoughts, not simply body weight.

Trial design and monitoring

  • The trial enrolled 22 adults with prior underweight anorexia nervosa who were weight-normalized or mildly underweight at entry, and 18 completed.
  • The design used a two-week ketogenic induction followed by 12 weeks of maintained ketosis.
  • The diet target was 70% fat, 20% protein, and 10% carbohydrate, with blood ketones around 0.5 or higher.
  • Participants met weekly with a dietitian and weekly with Guido Frank to track ketones, labs, symptoms, food logistics, and safety.
  • The practical work included restaurants, family dynamics, friends, and the large mental shift from fear of fat to using fat deliberately.

Main results

  • The main measures covered eating-disorder symptoms, depression, and related questionnaire scores from study entry through study end.
  • Symptoms rose slightly early in weight concern because fat was the macronutrient most feared by many participants.
  • Over time, eating-disorder scores and depression scores steadily fell.
  • Study completers moved below the eating-disorder questionnaire cutoff, with the global score falling from about 4.1 to about 1.7.
  • Compared with partial-hospital data moving from about 4.08 to about 3.09 at discharge, this change was unusually large.
  • Seventy-two percent of completers had very large gains, with eating-disorder and depression scores in the normal range by the end.

Weight, safety, and non-response

  • Weight was stable across the study, and the BMI graph was essentially flat week by week.
  • A few participants entered near BMI 18, briefly dipped under the allowed boundary, added fats, and did not relapse.
  • No participant relapsed into anorexia nervosa during the study.
  • Five completers did not improve as strongly on eating-disorder thoughts and behaviors; two were flat and three improved modestly.
  • Depression still improved in those weaker eating-disorder responders.
  • Poor self-esteem emerged as the main hurdle for weaker response, so some patients need direct work on self-esteem and temperament as well.

Clinical experience and mechanism

  • Many participants gained liberation from the constant cage of food, fat, shape, and next-meal fear.
  • Participants had more mental space, more calm, more energy, and more ability to separate themselves from eating-disorder thoughts.
  • The energy idea matters because anxious, perfectionistic patients may feel out of control when stress drains usable brain energy.
  • Ketogenic nutrition may give a steadier energy source, reduce anxiety, and reduce the need to regain control through food restriction.
  • Caroline Beckwith's earlier experience fit this pattern because the intrusive eating-disorder thoughts and voices went away.
  • Some participants said they had their life back, which matters beyond a significant rating-scale change.

Controversy, implementation, and next studies

  • The main pushback is that restrictive diets are often viewed as unsafe in anorexia nervosa, especially because keto is publicly tied to weight loss.
  • Ketogenic nutrition is not automatically a weight-loss diet; in this trial it was weight-maintaining and supervised.
  • The "all food is good food" premise should be open to data and not accepted as automatic truth for every person.
  • Weight-normalized people with persistent shape, weight, and eating distress are the group with the clearest current fit.
  • Underweight patients need a safety-first path with close monitoring, frequent labs, and more data before broad use.
  • The next work includes PET brain-glucose studies before and after ketogenic nutrition, underweight recruitment, bulimia nervosa exploration, and randomized controlled trials.

References

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