That matches my test as well. Red, and the skin felt hot, but no pain and I could touch the skin like normal.
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It does sound like a oxalate dump! In her talks she mentions even a cup of tea/day can be enough to put the body back into storage mode and stop a dump if it gets overwhelming.
Probably a good idea to hit the sauna too, help sweat out more rapidly what you can during a dump.
Nice data! I'm glad your sharing the experiment.
After you got out of the sun, did you have pain or a classic can't-touch-my-skin burn?
I've run against the safety guard rails so many times with AI, its a advanced form of gaslighting at times. But we could end up with 1984 levels of memory holing - if the AI owners say "All WHO recommendations are truth, and don't return any results that go against those guidelines". We would be stuck with the saturated fat is bad myth forever.
The best I'm able to do is get the guard rails to label themselves... for now
They don't do an amazing job of tying penis health and erections into a early warning sign of metabolic problems, but they start to. if your penis don't work... your metabolism NEEDS work...
From my understanding of ketogenic metabolism and it's impactful direct improvements on cardiovascular health - it's all about hormones!
Most men think erectile dysfunction is a bedroom problem. It's actually one of the earliest warning signs of cardiovascular disease, capable of showing up three to five years before a heart attack.
In this episode, Dr. Gabrielle Lyon sits down with Dr. Amy Pearlman, a urologist trained in men's sexual health, to discuss:
- Why ED is a symptom of vascular health, not a standalone disease and how the artery feeding the heart is roughly double the size of the one feeding the penis, so problems show up "down there" first
- Why "normal" testosterone can be meaningless, and the questions to ask before accepting a lab result that didn't flag
- How daily erections preserve penile tissue the way water keeps a sponge supple and why disuse can cost noticeable size over just a few months
- That cardiovascular exercise can rival ED medication for improving erectile function, making your heart health the real fix
- How to track erectile fitness before there's a problem, instead of waiting until something breaks
By the end, you'll understand the single signal your body uses to flag heart and metabolic risk early and the simple, mostly drug-free steps that protect both your cardiovascular health and your sexual function for life.
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Erectile function is cardiovascular data
- Erectile dysfunction is a vascular-system symptom, not a standalone disease.
- The penis can reveal cardiovascular dysfunction before the heart because penile arteries are smaller.
- A man can have erectile dysfunction years before a heart attack, stroke, or other cardiovascular event.
- The erection is a practical health signal because men often seek care for sex before metabolism.
- Sexual function gives clinicians a direct path into blood pressure, insulin resistance, obesity, sleep, drugs, alcohol, and exercise.
- Cardiovascular exercise can improve erectile function enough to land more strongly than abstract heart-health advice.
- Young men need to learn that erections are tissue-health events, not only performance events.
- Daily blood flow keeps erectile tissue oxygenated, elastic, and usable.
The men's-health education gap
- Men can fall out of medical care after pediatrics because adult medicine gives them few clear entry points.
- College-aged men may go decades without care when early adult health visits feel irrelevant, embarrassing, or dismissive.
- Medical training includes required women's-health exposure, yet male-specific sexual and reproductive health often receives little structure.
- Many male patients know very little about erections, ejaculation, fertility, penis anatomy, testosterone, or prostate symptoms.
- Young men ask legitimate questions that health systems often fail to answer plainly.
- Better men's-health education starts with normal anatomy and function, not fear or pathology.
- Men need a health conversation that feels practical, private, and useful before crisis.
The five S's for men's health
- Young men's questions fit into sex, streams, steroids, sperm, and size.
- Sex includes erections, libido, orgasm, ejaculation, porn, relationship concerns, and practical sexual function.
- Streams includes urinary flow, prostate concerns, testicular concerns, and the basic mechanics of peeing.
- Steroids includes testosterone, anabolic agents, gym culture, online clinics, fertility suppression, and monitoring.
- Sperm includes semen analysis, sperm banking, fertility goals, and how lifestyle changes may show up months later.
- Size includes normal ranges, anxiety, restoration after loss, safe devices, and enhancement requests.
- This structure gives men permission to ask the questions they already have.
Clinical intake and lifestyle triage
- Clinical intake starts where the patient is comfortable and then widens the conversation.
- Erection quality opens a pathway into cardiovascular fitness, metabolic health, sleep, medication use, and substance use.
- Obesity, insulin resistance, poor sleep, vaping, cocaine, marijuana, and alcohol can all matter for erections and hormones.
- Patient willingness should guide change before a long list shuts him down.
- A man may need cardiology, primary care, sleep medicine, fertility care, mental-health care, or sexual-medicine care.
- Good triage does not overwhelm the patient with every possible referral at once.
- The goal is keeping the man engaged in care long enough to improve the underlying system.
Testosterone, steroids, and harm reduction
- Testosterone belongs in the workup for men with sexual-function concerns.
- A lab range is not enough; a 25-year-old with testosterone around 300 can be symptomatic even when the number is marked normal.
- Safety comes first: possible harm must be known, and monitoring must prevent harm.
- Testosterone therapy can suppress sperm production, so fertility goals must be handled before starting.
- Testosterone is not reliable contraception, but it can dramatically reduce spermatogenesis in some men.
- Baseline semen analysis matters when a man wants children later or is unsure about future fertility.
- Monitoring includes symptoms, testosterone level timing, hematocrit, lipids, estrogen, and side effects.
- AUA guidance is helpful, but real-world dosing requires knowledge of formulations, timing, peaks, troughs, and patient response.
- Testosterone injections, topicals, pellets, oral formulations, peptides, and anabolic agents are not interchangeable.
- A high testosterone number alone does not answer the clinical question; symptoms and safety markers matter.
- Young men using or thinking about anabolic agents need harm-reduction care, not expulsion from the clinic.
- Baseline hormones, estrogen, hematocrit, and sperm data help men make safer decisions.
- Clinicians should learn from guidance, experienced specialists, and patient experience when formal training is thin.
Fertility and semen testing
- Men who may want children should know their semen status before starting hormones or other fertility-risking interventions.
- Semen analysis is the only way to know whether sperm exist, how many there are, and how they move.
- At-home semen testing can lower the barrier for young men who are curious or hesitant.
- A clinic-based semen analysis is still needed when fertility is active, results are abnormal, or sperm freezing is being weighed.
- Sperm development takes about three months, so lifestyle or medication changes need time before the next measurement.
- Marijuana, alcohol, sleep, diet, exercise, and hormones can be tested through repeated semen and hormone measures.
- The point is not moral judgment; the point is measurable cause and effect in one man's body.
Erectile-dysfunction testing and Peyronie's disease
- Penile Doppler ultrasound uses a strong injection to test blood inflow and outflow.
- A test only helps when it matches the real-world problem the patient is having.
- When Cialis or Trimix produces a strong erection, that result can be more useful than an artificial test that fails to recreate the complaint.
- Ultrasound is especially useful when a man has Peyronie's disease, scar tissue, a lump, curvature, shortening, or deformity.
- Peyronie's disease is not just curvature; pain, indentation, narrowing, buckling, intercourse difficulty, and distress can all matter.
- Congenital curvature can be normal when it is stable and not interfering with sex.
- Men should know that penile trauma during sex can contribute to Peyronie's disease.
- Safer sex mechanics and full rigidity reduce the risk of bending injury.
Blood-flow tools and medication
- The penis can be handled like any body part: structure, blood flow, function, maintenance, and restoration.
- Tadalafil can support blood-flow signaling by preserving nitric-oxide effects through PDE5 inhibition.
- Daily Cialis can be useful beyond on-demand erections when the goal is genital blood-flow support.
- Nitric-oxide supplements may help some men, but tadalafil is often the direct tool when blood flow is the target.
- Medication decisions still depend on the person, side effects, contraindications, and clinical context.
- Men do not need to wait for severe decline before learning how to preserve function.
- Stronger erections can make sex safer by reducing partial-rigidity bending and trauma.
Daily erections and erectile fitness
- Research on normal male physiology points to multiple nocturnal erections per night.
- Many men never learn that nighttime erections are a normal sign of erectile tissue health.
- When daily or nightly erections disappear, tissue can lose length, girth, elasticity, and responsiveness over time.
- A wearable erection tracker can separate libido from erectile mechanics.
- Firmness, duration, and number of erections can be tracked like other fitness measures.
- Tracking can show how alcohol, marijuana, sleep, exercise, stress, and medication affect erectile function.
- This data can motivate behavior change because it is personal and immediate.
- Venous leak means blood enters the penis but does not stay there well enough for a durable erection.
- An erection ring can function like a compression stocking by helping trap blood in the erectile chambers.
- Rings are simple, inexpensive, and available without a prescription, but they must be used safely.
Vacuum pumps and restoration
- Vacuum erection devices are underused for penile restoration and maintenance.
- A pump can pull blood into erectile tissue, stretch the tissue, and remind a man that engorgement is still possible.
- The goal is light pressure, good lubrication, a good seal, and patience, not aggressive overpumping.
- Pubic hair may need trimming so the cylinder seals against the body.
- Men should use water-based lubricant on the base, the cylinder, and the penis.
- The technique is a few pumps, relaxation, more gentle pumping, and attention to comfort.
- Pulling a testicle into the cylinder is a sign that the seal or setup needs adjustment.
- After erection loss or size loss, a daily pump program for about three months can be reasonable restoration work.
- A pump is not proven to enlarge an already healthy normal penis for enhancement.
- Urology has more data for restoring loss than for enlarging normal anatomy.
Size, normal ranges, and enhancement requests
- The largest pooled measurement data show average erect length and girth are far below what many men think is normal.
- Most men are not six inches erect, and average erect girth is around four and a half inches.
- A size conversation should reduce shame when reassurance is enough.
- Some men seeking enhancement are not broken, dysmorphic, or sexually dysfunctional.
- They may already have good sex and still want to know what is possible.
- Saying there is no help can push men toward unsafe pills, oils, injections, or online procedures.
- Enhancement should be handled from abundance when appropriate, not only from deficiency.
Traction therapy and RestoreX
- Penile traction is most established for Peyronie's disease and length restoration.
- RestoreX clamps the flaccid penis and stretches it in a controlled way.
- The device was developed so men could get benefit with far less daily time than older traction devices.
- Peyronie's scar tissue does not stretch like normal tissue, so traction can help remodel curve and length.
- RestoreX can stretch and counter-bend the penis, which matters when curvature is the target.
- Traction can be used alone or with Xiaflex collagenase injections in selected Peyronie's patients.
- Combination care can produce better outcomes than either traction or injection alone.
- For motivated men with length loss, a practical program may use RestoreX about thirty minutes daily for several months.
- Evidence is stronger for restoring lost length than for adding length to a healthy penis.
- Penile lengthening surgery by cutting the suspensory ligament can create stability problems and is not the preferred path.
Girth enhancement and functional goals
- Hyaluronic-acid filler can be injected between the erectile chambers and penile skin to increase girth.
- There is no FDA-approved injectable product specifically for penile girth enhancement.
- Hyaluronic acid is attractive because it can be dissolved with hyaluronidase if needed.
- A half-inch to one-inch girth increase is a common realistic goal, and some men want more.
- The glans does not enlarge with shaft filler, so aesthetics require attention to the transition from head to shaft.
- Girth can matter functionally when sensation or partner sensation is the issue.
- Aging, erectile dysfunction, tissue loss, and childbirth can change how bodies fit together during sex.
- Enhancement work should include sexual function, safety, aesthetics, expectations, and reversibility.
Female erectile tissue and sexual tools
- Women have extensive erectile tissue, but much of it is internal and hidden behind the labia.
- The clitoris is larger than the visible tip and has a wishbone-like internal structure.
- Many women need clitoral stimulation for orgasm and do not climax from penetration alone.
- Sex with an unengorged clitoris is comparable to sex with a flaccid penis.
- Full-area stimulation can matter more than precise stimulation of only the visible tip.
- Wand vibrators can cover the broader clitoral region better than tiny bullets for some women.
- Suction or pressure-wave devices work differently from vibration and may reduce the problem of temporary desensitization.
- Toys are not a sign of failure; they are tools for pleasure, training, and better partnered sex.
- When a person wants orgasm with and without a toy, practice should include both pathways.
- The best sex uses the available tools and does not protect a fragile idea of what sex is supposed to be.
Closing principle
- Penis health is health: blood flow, hormones, nerves, tissue, fertility, psychology, relationships, and education all connect.
- Men should receive clear information early, before erectile loss, fertility panic, unsafe enhancement, or avoidable cardiovascular risk.
- Sexual health care works best when it replaces shame with normal anatomy, measurable data, and practical tools.
References
- [00:00] Effect of aerobic exercise on erectile function: systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials — https://doi.org/10.1093/jsxmed/qdad130
- [00:01] Erectile dysfunction and coronary artery disease prediction: evidence-based guidance and consensus — https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1742-1241.2010.02410.x
- [00:25] The Evaluation and Management of Testosterone Deficiency: AUA Guideline — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.juro.2018.03.115
- [00:36] A phase III, single-arm, 6-month trial of a wide-dose range oral testosterone undecanoate product — https://doi.org/10.1177/17562872241241864
- [01:31] Am I normal? A systematic review and construction of nomograms for flaccid and erect penis length and circumference in up to 15,521 men — https://doi.org/10.1111/bju.13010
- [01:33] An Abundance Mindset: Lessons From Penile Girth Enhancement Research and Real-Life Experience — https://auanews.net/issues/articles/2026/april-2026/an-abundance-mindset
- [01:35] Outcomes of a Novel Penile Traction Device in Men with Peyronie's Disease: A Randomized, Single-Blind, Controlled Trial — https://doi.org/10.1097/JU.0000000000000245
- [01:37] Efficacy of Combined Collagenase Clostridium histolyticum and RestoreX Penile Traction Therapy in Men with Peyronie's Disease — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsxm.2019.03.007
- [01:45] Premature Ejaculation: The Most Common Male Sexual Dysfunction — https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2005.00163.x
- [01:46] Women's Experiences With Genital Touching, Sexual Pleasure, and Orgasm: Results From a U.S. Probability Sample of Women Ages 18 to 94 — https://doi.org/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1346530
Thus your position is vegans should not supplement unless recommended by a doctor?
Update - What I'm trying to do is identify the "bad advice" and "quack science" you initially complained about. So a medical doctor recommending vegans supplement is the "bad advice"?
Given that 40% of people experiencing b12 deficiency can have normal b12 blood work, would you recommend to other vegans not to supplement as well?
https://doi.org/10.3390/jcm13082176 - Diagnosis, Treatment and Long-Term Management of Vitamin B12 Deficiency in Adults: A Delphi Expert Consensus
The serum concentration of vitamin B12 is commonly used as a primary marker of vitamin B12 status. However, 30–40% of people with neurological or hematological symptoms related to B12 deficiency may have normal vitamin B12 concentrations
Let’s not spread quack science
totally agree on this
CDC says to get your vitamins from food sources not supplements. Supplements can do mor harm than good sometimes.
Does this mean a whole food vegan diet doesn't need supplements?
MD Gregor (who has never practiced, has no patients) of https://nutritionfacts.org/ fame, is specifically called out, with this flattering photo!

The section on brain health was very compelling

This mockup of a healthy plant based brain is more true then they realize, and should scare them! No fat in that brain.
This is friendly carnivore, why call out the vegan issues? It seems most of the people who come to our carnivore community are plant based and meat curious, so we have spent quite a bit of time lately going over lots of these logical fallacies in the comments of our posts - better to just address them with one meta post and get all the arguments in one place.
Dr Paul Mason obtained his medical degree with honours from the University of Sydney, and also holds degrees in Physiotherapy and Occupational Health. He is a Specialist Sports Medicine and Exercise Physician.
Dr Mason developed an interest in low carbohydrate diets in 2011. Since then he has spent hundreds of hours reading and analysing the scientific literature. For a number of years Dr. Mason has been applying this knowledge in treating metabolic and arthritis patients who have achieved dramatic and sustained weight loss and reductions in joint pain.
Dr. Mason is also the Chief Medical Officer of Defeat Diabetes, Australia's first evidence-based and doctor-led program that focuses on the wide range of health benefits of a low carb lifestyle, particularly for those wanting to send into remission pre-diabetes, type 2 diabetes, and other metabolic illnesses.
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B12 and child safety
- Vegan diets are promoted as healthy and ethical, but the nutrient realities can make them dangerous.
- Children can suffer severe outcomes on unsupplemented vegan diets without medical supervision, blood tests, and adequate nutrient planning.
- Plant foods do not provide adequate B12 unless fortified, and liver B12 stores only delay deficiency for years.
- A balanced vegan diet means fortified foods or B12 supplements, and B12 deficiency remains common among vegetarian groups.
- Animal foods provide B12 plus DHA, EPA, creatine, heme iron, choline, taurine, zinc, and fat-soluble vitamins that vegan diets struggle to supply.
Science quality and red meat
- Observational nutrition research produces associations, not causation, and food-frequency questionnaires add recall and classification error.
- Confounding and healthy-user bias make meat-avoidance headlines weak without randomized trials.
- Systematic reviews depend on included-study quality, and surrogate markers such as LDL can detach from meaningful clinical outcomes.
- The LDL mortality review in older adults rejects LDL as a reliable nutrition surrogate.
- The 2015 WHO/IARC red-meat cancer release relies on observational work and carcinogen-injected rat experiments.
- The EAT-Lancet diet links back to that IARC work while severely limiting red-meat intake.
Brain nutrients and bioavailability
- DHA and EPA are absent from plants, and ALA conversion is too small to protect brain development.
- DHA trials, creatine trials, and iron trials connect animal-source nutrients with cognition, memory, behavior, and child development.
- Heme iron, retinol, and vitamin D3 have better real-world bioavailability than the plant forms named in the talk.
- Plant anti-nutrients such as phytates, oxalates, tannins, and glucosinolates can block mineral absorption.
- Meat contains vitamin C, and historical Arctic, Antarctic, and military scurvy examples fit that reality.
Evolution and anatomy
- Soil and manure are not credible B12 sources, and vegan comparative-anatomy tables rely on false premises.
- Human saliva enzymes, stomach acidity, colon size, and great-ape opportunistic meat eating support an omnivorous anatomy.
Animals and agriculture
- Grain agriculture kills animals through harvest, predation after cover loss, machinery, plowing, and rodent poisons.
- Mouse counts, freezing behavior, plague densities, and poison lethality challenge the idea of a death-free vegan diet.
- Intent does not erase responsibility for deaths embedded in crop production.
Environment and land
- Monocropping drives soil erosion, microbial disruption, biodiversity loss, pesticide dependence, and nutrient decline in crops.
- Ruminant grazing builds soil through perennial grasses, root turnover, biomass, and carbon storage.
- Livestock land-use figures narrow once marginal land that cannot be cropped is separated out.
- Livestock water use must separate green rainwater from blue freshwater, because crop irrigation carries the blue-water burden.
Pesticides and glyphosate
- Pesticide use follows monocrop dependence, glyphosate-resistant weeds, grain residues, and residue concerns in cattle and humans.
- Glyphosate-related cues include preharvest wheat spraying, FSANZ food detections, Clostridium botulinum, cattle tissues, urine levels, organic-food differences, and chronic illness association.
Closing
- Animal foods make the stronger case; weak nutrition research does not justify red-meat demonization, and no diet avoids death.
References
- [00:02] The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1934 — https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1934/summary/
- [00:04] How prevalent is vitamin B12 deficiency among vegetarians? — https://doi.org/10.1111/nure.12001
- [00:10] Lack of an association or an inverse association between LDL-C and mortality in the elderly: a systematic review — https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjopen-2015-010401
- [00:11] Carcinogenicity of consumption of red and processed meat — https://doi.org/10.1016/S1470-2045(15)00444-1
- [00:13] Beef Meat and Blood Sausage Promote the Formation of Azoxymethane-Induced Mucin-Depleted Foci and Aberrant Crypt Foci in Rat Colons — https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/134.10.2711
- [00:14] Beef meat promotion of dimethylhydrazine-induced colorectal carcinogenesis biomarkers is suppressed by dietary calcium — https://doi.org/10.1017/S0007114507843558
- [00:14] Food in the Anthropocene: the EAT-Lancet Commission on healthy diets from sustainable food systems — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(18)31788-4
- [00:18] Maternal supplementation with very-long-chain n-3 fatty acids during pregnancy and lactation augments children's IQ at 4 years of age — https://doi.org/10.1542/peds.111.1.e39
- [00:20] Oral creatine monohydrate supplementation improves brain performance: a double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over trial — https://doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2003.2492
- [00:20] Effects of creatine supplementation on cognitive function of healthy individuals: A systematic review of randomized controlled trials — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.exger.2018.04.013
- [00:20] A double-masked, randomized control trial of iron supplementation in early infancy in healthy term breast-fed infants — https://doi.org/10.1067/S0022-3476(03)00301-9
- [00:21] Effects of iron supplementation of low-birth-weight infants on cognition and behavior at 7 years: a randomized controlled trial — https://doi.org/10.1038/pr.2017.235
- [00:22] Randomised study of cognitive effects of iron supplementation in non-anaemic iron-deficient adolescent girls — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(96)02341-0
- [00:22] Iron treatment normalizes cognitive functioning in young women — https://doi.org/10.1093/ajcn/85.3.778
- [00:24] The Efficacy and Safety of Vitamin C for Iron Supplementation in Adult Patients With Iron Deficiency Anemia: A Randomized Clinical Trial — https://doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2020.23644
- [00:24] Iron absorption from legumes in humans — https://doi.org/10.1093/ajcn/40.1.42
- [00:25] Comparison of vitamin D2 and vitamin D3 supplementation in raising serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D status: a systematic review and meta-analysis — https://doi.org/10.3945/ajcn.111.031070
- [00:32] Midbrain circuits for defensive behaviour — https://doi.org/10.1038/nature17996
- [00:33] The effects of harvest on arable wood mice Apodemus sylvaticus — https://doi.org/10.1016/0006-3207(93)90060-E
- [00:35] Field Deaths in Plant Agriculture — https://philarchive.org/archive/FISFDI
- [00:36] Key messages | Global Symposium on Soil Erosion — https://www.fao.org/about/meetings/soil-erosion-symposium/key-messages/en/
- [00:37] Changes in USDA food composition data for 43 garden crops, 1950 to 1999 — https://doi.org/10.1080/07315724.2004.10719409
- [00:38] Livestock: On our plates or eating at our table? A new analysis of the feed/food debate — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.gfs.2017.01.001
- [00:40] A Global Assessment of the Water Footprint of Farm Animal Products — https://doi.org/10.1007/s10021-011-9517-8
- [00:41] Pesticides use, pesticides trade and pesticides indicators: Global, regional and country trends, 1990-2020 — https://openknowledge.fao.org/bitstreams/78705276-3455-4c70-ac77-3082095f83b3/download
- [00:43] The Effect of Glyphosate on Potential Pathogens and Beneficial Members of Poultry Microbiota In Vitro — https://doi.org/10.1007/s00284-012-0277-2
- [00:43] Glyphosate suppresses the antagonistic effect of Enterococcus spp. on Clostridium botulinum — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.anaerobe.2013.01.005
- [00:44] Detection of Glyphosate Residues in Animals and Humans — https://doi.org/10.4172/2161-0525.1000210
Logical fallacies called out in the talk
- [01:45] False premise — plant foods contain usable B12.
- [03:48] Euphemism / hidden premise — “well-balanced vegan diet” hides mandatory supplementation.
- [06:21] Correlation-causation fallacy — observational association used as proof of causation.
- [07:25] False precision — food-frequency questionnaires treated as reliable dietary evidence.
- [08:07] Confounding error — hamburger outcomes blamed on meat while fries, soda, and lifestyle variables remain mixed in.
- [08:34] Healthy-user bias — meat avoidance confused with better outcomes from broader health-conscious behavior.
- [09:56] Garbage-in, garbage-out — systematic reviews treated as strong even when included studies are weak.
- [10:28] Surrogate-marker fallacy — LDL used as a substitute for meaningful outcomes such as mortality.
- [11:48] Weak-evidence overreach — red meat treated as causing bowel cancer from weak observational evidence.
- [13:12] Animal-model overreach — carcinogen-injected rat experiments used as evidence against normal human red-meat consumption.
- [15:04] Citation laundering — weak WHO/IARC evidence reused by EAT-Lancet as if it were settled proof.
- [16:19] Image/implication fallacy — “plant-based = brain healthy” messaging despite nutrient risks to brain development.
- [17:16] Nutrient-equivalence fallacy — plant ALA treated as equivalent to animal DHA/EPA.
- [24:29] Rescue fallacy — vitamin C assumed to fix poor non-heme iron absorption.
- [24:04] Nutrient-amount fallacy — plant iron counted without accounting for bioavailability.
- [25:00] Form-equivalence fallacy — plant vitamin A/D forms treated as equivalent to animal retinol/D3.
- [26:00] Whole-food absorption fallacy — plant nutrients treated as available while antinutrients block absorption.
- [28:03] Argument from missing data — beef treated as vitamin-C-free because USDA values listed zero without measuring it.
- [30:33] Meat-scurvy myth — meat-heavy diets treated as causing scurvy.
- [30:43] Evolutionary falsehood — humans treated as not evolved to eat meat.
- [31:04] Ad hoc rescue — pre-agricultural humans supposedly got B12 from accidental soil/manure ingestion.
- [31:19] Cherry-picked anatomy / false comparison — comparative-anatomy tables used to make humans look herbivorous.
- [32:25] Death-free diet fallacy — vegan diets treated as good for animals while crop deaths are omitted.
- [33:05] Evasion-by-agility fallacy — mice assumed to escape harvesters because they are agile.
- [35:00] Intentions-over-consequences fallacy — lack of intent treated as reduced responsibility for crop deaths.
- [38:43] Land-use equivocation — livestock land use treated as croppable land use.
- [40:06] False trend — livestock land use treated as increasing.
- [40:22] Water-use equivocation — livestock “water use” treated as blue freshwater depletion while mostly green rainwater is counted.
[03:48] “The phrase ‘well-balanced’ is really code for ‘needs supplementing.’”
[05:18] “How can a vegan diet possibly be the healthiest diet for humankind when, without artificial supplementation, it will eventually kill you?”
[19:25] “To anyone with a child on a plant-based diet, please give them a good quality DHA supplement, not flaxseed oil.”
[45:58] “Finally, understand there is no such thing as a diet for which nothing has died.”
Those poor paleobiologists having to reconcile the data with their current biases
An unreasonably huge amount of meat
this doesn't make sense from the point of view of human nutrition because if you are a hypercarnivore, you starve from a imbalanced diet.
Lots of tropical fruits in the ice age i hear...
fat in human evolution
Canadian born Amber O’Hearn, M.Sc., is a data scientist by profession with a background in mathematics, computer science, linguistics, and psychology. After moving to the U.S., she began experimenting with different forms of diet, in order to retain her health and balance her mental state.
She has been studying and experimenting with ketogenic diets since 1997. More recently she has begun writing and speaking about her findings. Her review on the evolutionary appropriateness and benefit of weaning babies onto a meat-based, high fat, low carb diet, was included as testimony defending Prof. Tim Noakes in his trial. Amber has been eating a carnivorous diet for over 11 years and is the founder of CarnivoryCon, an annual conference dedicated to the carnivore lifestyle.
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Core hypothesis
- In human practice, the carnivore diet is animal-fat-based nutrition, not a protein plan.
- Amber’s 2009 shift from long-term low-carb eating to carnivore eating brought weight loss and ended mood-disorder symptoms and medication.
- Human traits—large brain, upright gait, grip, short acidic gut, low fermentation, and unusual fatness—fit a fat-specialized animal-food model.
- Grain-based societies are recent in human history, so grain-centered assumptions shape human physiology work.
Human divergence and fat-first foraging
- Chimpanzees are a poor model for Homo because the Pan line and Homo line split more than five million years ago, and closest living relatives can have very different physiologies.
- Thompson and colleagues separate chimpanzee small-prey hunting from Homo large-animal exploitation.
- Chimpanzees use hands, teeth, and canines in forests for small prey that mainly adds protein and micronutrients.
- Homo exploited large prey in dangerous open settings with tools, and the special payoff was access to large fat stores.
- Percussive scavenging of bones and skulls gave australopithecines marrow and brains before flaked tools became central.
- Bone and skull contents supplied compact, persistent, portable, high-energy fat and brain-specific nutrients.
- Stone flakes arose as byproducts of pounding, then made attached meat easier to use, creating a path from fat scavenging to butchery and hunting.
- The gateway into the human predatory pattern was fat.
Energy constraints
- Humans lost the digestive equipment for a fiber-based energy strategy: the colon and cecum are small next to other primates.
- Bone isotope work puts Homo at a high trophic level, with meat intake high enough to trouble protein-centered nutrition models.
- Protein alone fails as a human energy base; rabbit starvation shows lean meat without fat leads to diarrhea, headache, lassitude, discomfort, and unsatisfied hunger.
- Cats can run brains from protein-derived glucose, but humans cannot take most calories from protein without problems.
- Carbohydrates from tubers were limited by late widespread cooking, low raw glucose availability, toxins, and heavy processing demands.
- With fiber and protein limited and carbohydrates unreliable, animal fat remains the workable ancestral energy source.
Human fatness, infant brains, and ketosis
- Even lean humans carry two to three times more fat than other comparable adult primates, and human babies are unusually fat.
- Human infant fat is largely subcutaneous, differently distributed, and matched to high brain energy demand.
- Humans rank high in encephalization, and infants devote more than half of their energy to the brain.
- Human babies combine relatively larger brains, more fat, and stronger ketosis than adults.
- Cahill’s graph shows newborns and infants enter ketosis faster than older children and adults during fasting.
- Ketone-focused infant brain work ties neonatal energy, breast-milk medium-chain fats, octanoic acid use, and brain lipid/cholesterol building to ketosis.
- In humans, ketone use is not merely starvation fuel: the brain can use ketones whenever supply is available.
- Therapeutic epilepsy diets show many people can maintain seizure control and mild ketosis without protein or calorie restriction when carbohydrate is low and fat is high.
- Body fat increases ketogenic capacity because stored fat can enter circulation between meals.
Final lipovore model
- The human brain began with simple fat-access tools, large-animal carcasses, and a dietary shift away from fiber.
- Humans evolved greater fat storage, ketone generation, and ketone use under ordinary fed and fasting conditions.
- The lipovore is a human specialized for animal fat as a central fuel.
- Fat-centered infant-brain biology makes sugary grain-based weaning foods, low-fat guidance after age two, and Ancel Keys-era anti-fat policy look biologically backward.
References
- [03:45] Origins of the Human Predatory Pattern: The Transition to Large-Animal Exploitation by Early Hominins — https://doi.org/10.1086/701477
- [15:20] The Fat of the Land — https://archive.org/details/fatofland0000stef
- [20:40] Survival of the fattest: fat babies were the key to evolution of the large human brain — https://doi.org/10.1016/S1095-6433(03)00048-5
- [23:20] Fuel Metabolism in Starvation — https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.nutr.26.061505.111258
- [23:50] Ketones and brain development: Implications for correcting deteriorating brain glucose metabolism during aging — https://doi.org/10.1051/ocl/2015025
- [25:45] Brain fuel metabolism, aging, and Alzheimer's disease — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.nut.2010.07.021
- [27:05] The Modified Atkins Diet in Refractory Epilepsy — https://doi.org/10.1155/2014/404202
Sally K Norton is a Cornell University-educated nutritionist, dietary consultant, and lifestyle coach. She works with people struggling with unexplained joint pain, muscle pain, inflammation, fatigue, and brain function problems. She has unique expertise in the link between dietary oxalates and mysterious health problems and has been at the forefront of educating patients and clinicians on the dangers of oxalates, which she explains in her new book "Toxic Superfoods."
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PATH INTO OXALATES
- Sally Norton was trained to limit animal fats, butter, and salt while elevating vegetables, and that training damaged her health.
- Chronic health problems, fatigue, and vulvar pain became the entry point into oxalates and low-oxalate eating.
- The Vulvar Pain Foundation had used low-oxalate diet work for pelvic pain long before it reached her school training.
- Oxalate first entered the curriculum as a kidney-stone issue, then the same chemistry came to matter far beyond kidneys.
- Sweet potatoes, Swiss chard, nuts, potatoes, peanuts, chocolate, spinach, and similar foods can create a bioaccumulation problem.
OXALATE INTAKE, STORAGE, AND RELEASE
- Oxalate enters from foods as oxalic acid and plant-made calcium oxalate crystals, while the liver also makes some from vitamin C and amino acid breakdown.
- Oxalic acid enters through the stomach and upper intestine, flows into the liver, then moves through the heart, lungs, circulation, and kidneys.
- Oxalic acid chelates calcium, magnesium, iron, and other minerals, so blood and cellular electrolyte handling can become unstable after meals.
- Calcium signaling runs cellular communication, heart pacing, nerve function, mitochondria, and endoplasmic-reticulum signaling, so oxalate disrupts basic physiology.
- The body stores oxalate in thyroid glands, bone marrow, tendons, injured tissue, inflamed tissue, degenerating cells, and areas of wear and tear.
- Healthy cells can resist oxalate better, while damaged or regenerating tissue becomes sticky to calcium oxalate and attracts more inflammation.
- Low-oxalate eating can initially feel worse because stored oxalate moves back through blood, kidneys, urine, and tissues during clearing.
- Adding oxalate back can temporarily calm symptoms because it can signal the body to slow the clearing process.
- Heavy clearing can cause cloudy urine, kidney stress, kidney stones, electrolyte disturbance, blood-pressure spikes, atrial fibrillation, fatigue, brain fog, cramps, mood disruption, and sleep disruption.
CELLULAR DAMAGE AND CANCER MECHANISMS
- Oxalate can scramble cell membranes, flip inner-leaflet molecules outward, and make immune cells remove cells as damaged material.
- Mitochondria are double-membrane structures, so oxalate-driven membrane damage can flatten cristae, increase free radicals, and weaken energy production.
- Damaged cells leak potassium and other danger signals, activate inflammasomes, raise lactate dehydrogenase, raise osteopontin, and deepen oxidative stress.
- Chronic exposure through spinach, potatoes, chocolate, nuts, sweet potatoes, and Swiss chard keeps these stress signals active multiple times per day.
- Breast-cancer work connects oxalate ions and crystals with aggressive tumor behavior, microcalcifications, mesenchymal transition, and hydroxyapatite deposits.
- Warburg-style cancer metabolism fits the concern: damaged mitochondria drive fermentation, glucose and glutamine demand, free radicals, mutations, and further mitochondrial injury.
- Older enzyme work connects oxalate with interference in energy metabolism, but modern funding has not carried that line forward enough.
NUTRITION EDUCATION, INCENTIVES, AND IDEOLOGY
- The medical and scientific system shifted toward product development, revenue, corporate medicine, and guideline obedience.
- Prevention through avoiding excess oxalate has little commercial upside compared with drugs, procedures, and products.
- Nutrition inherited vegetarian ideology, especially in places tied to Seventh-day Adventism and plant-based academic culture.
- Loma Linda, Harvard, Cornell, Colin Campbell, Walter Willett, and related institutions sit inside that plant-forward academic history.
- Ivy League nutrition training left Sally Norton with pre-digested conclusions: fat caused disease, saturated fat was harmful, and sugar was benign except for cavities.
- Industry money, sugar funding, pharmaceutical ties, and guideline committees shape what doctors learn and what patients are offered.
- Good nutrition training needs original literature, cell biology, biochemistry, research methods, old papers, and independent thinking.
PLANT TOXINS AND MODERN HEALTH FOODS
- Toxic Superfoods focuses mainly on oxalates, while the wider plant-toxin topic includes saponins, tannins, and other gut-damaging compounds.
- Modern healthy-eating styles can increase plant toxins through spinach, almonds, chia, nuts, dark chocolate, sweet potatoes, Swiss chard, and high-oxalate keto or vegan foods.
- Seed oils and sugar can worsen oxalate trouble, especially when combined with spinach salads, sweet dressings, raisins, and dessert patterns.
- Tannins harden proteins, saponins dissolve membranes, and many plant compounds act first on the gut.
- Phytonutrients are better understood as phytotoxins when the body is trying to avoid or neutralize them.
LOW-OXALATE TRANSITION AND SUPPORT
- Abruptly jumping from high-oxalate vegan or keto eating into carnivore can be a major metabolic shock.
- Cells can shift within days when oxalate intake drops, so gradual reduction is safer than mobilizing thyroid, bone-marrow, tendon, and tissue stores all at once.
- Reduction can start with spinach, then nuts, then other high-oxalate staples, while keeping the process slow enough for the body and psyche.
- Electrolytes matter because oxalate clearing can waste sodium and potassium and disrupt calcium and magnesium handling.
- Calcium citrate, potassium citrate, salt, B vitamins, sunshine, mineral baths, and small oxalate doses such as tea can help slow excessive clearing.
- Meat-based eating supplies a strong base for healing, and full carnivore can be a useful stage during oxalate recovery.
CARBS, CARNIVORE, AND METABOLIC FLEXIBILITY
- Former vegetarians or high-oxalate keto eaters may carry a longer oxalate history into carnivore than lifelong meat-heavy eaters.
- Oxalate poisoning can disrupt gluconeogenesis, glycogen, blood sugar, sleep, cramps, and electrolyte stability, making some people need carbohydrates.
- Paul Saladino’s carnivore problems fit this pattern more than Shawn Baker’s history because prior plant-heavy eating changes the background load.
- A mostly carnivore diet can still include carefully chosen carbs when sleep, cramps, and function improve with them.
- Carbs are best kept deliberate, often with dinner, without returning to processed foods, high-oxalate staples, or loss of control around sugar.
- Chronic ketosis is not automatically the correct endpoint for every body; metabolic flexibility and movement in and out of ketosis can be healthier.
- Insulin spikes are not inherently bad, and eating meat or small carb amounts can help cells pull potassium back into muscles and nerves.
References
- [00:04] Calcium citrate for vulvar vestibulitis: A case report — https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1816400/
- [00:04] Urinary oxalate excretion and its role in vulvar pain syndrome — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0002-9378(97)70137-6
- [00:15] Oxalate induces breast cancer — https://doi.org/10.1186/s12885-015-1747-2
- [00:20] The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 1931 — https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/1931/summary/
- [00:20] The Metabolism of Tumors in the Body — https://doi.org/10.1085/jgp.8.6.519
- [00:20] On the Origin of Cancer Cells — https://doi.org/10.1126/science.123.3191.309
- [00:23] Effect of Oxalate on the Activity of Lactate Dehydrogenase Isoenzymes — https://doi.org/10.1038/2021337a0
- [00:48] Toxic Superfoods — https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646534/toxic-superfoods-by-sally-k-norton-mph/
These little morsels of goodness are made with just butter and a pinch of salt.
They’re a simple, satisfying treat that’s perfect for a carnivore diet or keto lifestyle.
I love to mix it up by adding a bit of crispy bacon or ground beef thats also crisped up for an extra boost of flavour.
These bites are a must-have for curbing cravings and keeping you on track with your goals.
Teri shares her journey on the carnivore diet.
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Food history and body shift
- Terry had lifelong food struggles, but the pattern was the reverse of most people: weight gain was difficult.
- During military service, at 5'9", weight stayed around 105 to 112 pounds despite supplements, training, and help from every branch.
- A military doctor required a 30-day food log; the average came out around 7,000 calories daily, with one day near 11,000.
- Around age 35, weight rose to about 160 pounds, but that weight felt wrong on a small build.
- Back pain, joint pain, acne, and a 2 a.m. lumbar spasm made "normal degeneration" sound absurd.
Plant study and herbal training
- A horse-science degree led into a master's in clinical herbal medicine after COVID shut down job options.
- That education made plants look different: phytonutrients get attention, while phytochemicals, phytotoxins, and phyto-medicines get ignored.
- Spinach captures the problem: heavy-metal load, low usable iron, high oxalates, and little of the nutrition people think they are getting.
- Plants can be useful as medicine, but that does not make them appropriate food.
- The PhD work in integrative health centers on toxicity and deficiency as the roots of disease.
Signs, deficiencies, and elimination
- Hair, skin, nails, body shape, eczema, psoriasis, gray hair, rough skin, and other surface signs can reveal nutritional and metabolic problems.
- Repeated research exposure kept bringing attention back to elimination diets.
- A true elimination diet removes plant matter, and that points toward carnivore as the cleanest human-health experiment.
- This diet is not a fad; food elimination has medical roots going back to ancient records around 400 BCE.
- Three days on carnivore cleared acne and psoriasis, and 60 days resolved the autoimmune issues in the household.
Reintroduction and daily food
- Reintroductions make the plant problem obvious: grains bring back back pain, gluten brings ear psoriasis, seed oils bring acne, starch tightens the neck, and sugar makes the kidneys hurt.
- A client lost about 100 pounds and many health issues on carnivore, then a pint of ice cream and two Pop-Tarts hit hard enough to cause passing out and staples.
- A normal day is simple: duck eggs and sausage late morning, meat for dinner, and reverse-osmosis water.
- Carnivore made food uncomplicated, cut the grocery bill, removed cravings and hunger, and raised energy high enough for Navy Reserve reenlistment at 47.
Veterans, primacy, and pushback
- Terry works with veterans for free because VA care leaves many of them suffering.
- Veteran suicide is a crisis, and the number commonly repeated is 22 deaths per day.
- The law of primacy explains much of the resistance: early nutrition lessons feel true even when new facts arrive.
- People hear "stop eating plants" and assume salad, but the meaning is nearly everything in the grocery store.
- Children are weaned from breast milk onto pulverized plant matter, snacks, crackers, cereal, and sugar.
Food rules flipped
- The standard nutrition lesson turns 180 degrees: beef, butter, bacon, and eggs are health food.
- Cholesterol has been demonized backward; high-cholesterol populations are the healthy ones, and the brain depends heavily on cholesterol.
- Grains spike blood sugar, inflame the body, and can drive autoimmune and pain problems.
- Package text works as a warning sign, and health language on cereal boxes is especially suspect.
- Broccoli and grocery-store produce are man-made through selective breeding, not ancient human staples.
Industry and medicine
- The cigarette industry moved into food, put addiction science to work, and helped build hyper-palatable products that hijack reward and blunt satiety.
- Big Food creates addiction, Big Pharma sells injections and drugs, and doctors manage decline with pills.
- Doctors are usually good people trained wrongly, not villains.
- Doctors such as Chaffee, Kiltz, Ken Berry, Eric Berg, Mark Hyman, and Shawn Baker helped make this carnivore conversation visible.
- Ken Berry's keto and carnivore story and Shawn Baker's ribeye-only routine show what long-term animal-food eating can look like.
Sugar, dairy, and exit
- All plant foods contain or become sugar in the body, from coffee and broccoli to grains and refined sugar.
- Human insulin is not suited to plant sugars, which is why plant foods raise insulin and feed insulin resistance.
- Dairy is not automatically safe on carnivore because lactose, casomorphins, cheese addiction, and seed-oil-filled milk swaps create problems.
- Seed oils are everywhere, especially in smooth or texturized products such as yogurt, granola, and ice cream.
- In Terry's client experience, tapering off plants fails; cold turkey is the successful route.
- The central lesson is simple: remove plants, eat animal foods, watch the body calm down.
References
- [05:09] Mitigating Toxic Metal Exposure Through Leafy Greens: A Comprehensive Review Contrasting Cadmium and Lead in Spinach — https://doi.org/10.1029/2024GH001081
- [05:09] Iron bioavailability and dietary reference values — https://doi.org/10.3945/ajcn.2010.28674F
- [05:09] Dietary oxalate and kidney stone formation — https://doi.org/10.1152/ajprenal.00373.2018
- [07:11] Nutrition Education in U.S. Medical Schools: Latest Update of a National Survey — https://doi.org/10.1097/ACM.0b013e3181eab71b
- [10:18] Autoimmune protocol diet: A personalized elimination diet for patients with autoimmune diseases — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.metop.2024.100342
- [19:41] Suicide Data Report, 2012 — https://www.va.gov/opa/docs/suicide-data-report-2012-final.pdf
- [23:47] Lack of an association or an inverse association between low-density-lipoprotein cholesterol and mortality in the elderly: a systematic review — https://doi.org/10.1136/bmjopen-2015-010401
- [23:47] Brain Cholesterol: Long Secret Life Behind a Barrier — https://doi.org/10.1161/01.ATV.0000120374.59826.1b
- [25:50] US tobacco companies selectively disseminated hyper-palatable foods into the US food system: Empirical evidence and current implications — https://doi.org/10.1111/add.16332
- [26:55] Vital Pursuit Hits Shelves Nationwide as First-to-Market Nestlé Brand Designed for GLP-1 Users — https://www.nestleusa.com/media/pressreleases/vital-pursuit-nationwide-glp-1
- [43:16] Which Foods May Be Addictive? The Roles of Processing, Fat Content, and Glycemic Load — https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0117959
- [43:16] Casomorphins and Gliadorphins Have Diverse Systemic Effects Spanning Gut, Brain and Internal Organs — https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph18157911
- [43:16] Lactose digestion in humans: intestinal lactase appears to be constitutive whereas the colonic microbiome is adaptable — https://doi.org/10.1093/ajcn/nqz104
Background - A carnivore diet is characterised by the exclusive consumption of animal foods, particularly red meat. Digital media, particularly TikTok and Instagram, often praise the health-promoting and disease-preventive properties of the carnivore diet. However, the scientific data on this form of nutrition is currently very limited.
Methods - After creating a coding guide with an accompanying seven-day pretest and modification, a social media analysis was conducted on the Instagram platform over a period of one month. In addition to content related to nutrition and food, aspects such as lifestyle, advertising measures, and political or social statements were also collected. The survey was conducted quantitatively through categorization, accompanied by qualitative documentation of notable findings.
Results - The analysis included 19 content creators (47% male, 53% female; aged 25–64) with an average of 157,758 ± 146,405 (25,200–582,000) followers. A total of 1,169 posts during the survey period showed a notable focus on health- and disease-related statements. With the exception of the strong emphasis on red meat, the nutritional and food recommendations were heterogeneous. This was accompanied by ideology-related themes, politically relevant statements, and critical portrayals of institutions such as science, politics, and industry, some of which could be classified as politically right-wing conservative. However, the data does not allow for a clear political classification. Overall, the carnivore diet was portrayed as positive.
Conclusions - The one-sided view of carnivore nutrition, combined with political and social content, should be viewed critically. Nutrition professionals should pay attention to social media and counteract non-evidence-based claims with scientifically sound information.
Full Paper - https://doi.org/10.1186/s41043-026-01336-4
T-bones for breakfast, ground round for lunch, rib eyes for dinner. Does this sound like your dream menu — or your worst nightmare? Is a diet consisting of only animal products a simple, healing way to eat or an overly restrictive regimen that borders on an eating disorder?
A carnivore diet contains animal products only. It is plant-free. In its most extreme form, it includes only meat and water.
Diet doctor is a great resource, hover over the number bubbles for their sources.
Dr. Eric Westman sits down with nutrition researcher Dr. Ty Beal to discuss what the science really says about nutrient density, animal foods, plant-based diets, dietary guidelines, and why so much mainstream nutrition advice has failed to improve public health. They explore why real food matters, why ultra-processed foods are a major problem, and why foods like eggs, fish, meat, organ meats, and dairy may be far more nutrient-dense than many people have been taught to believe. Dr. Beal also explains the limitations of observational nutrition research, the problems with weak associations, the debate around animal foods and planetary health, and why nutrition advice needs more nuance than simply saying “eat less fat” or “eat more plants.” This conversation challenges the old food pyramid thinking and asks whether modern dietary guidelines have ignored some of the most nutrient-rich foods humans can eat.
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Clinical origins and evidence standards
- Low-carb care began with two patients losing more than 50 lb each through Atkins-style carbohydrate restriction before GLP-1 drugs were available.
- Atkins had decades of clinic practice before strong published trials, and the gap between clinical results and academic acceptance remains important.
- Clinical epidemiology starts with patients and outcomes, even when unpublished practice data brings little academic credit.
- Early-2000s low-carb research moved the field from anecdote toward trials, reviews, and diabetes care.
Ty Beal’s route into nutrition
- Diet changes improved health after travel-related illness, digestive problems, low energy, and undiagnosed lactose intolerance.
- PhD work at UC Davis joined agriculture, geography, ecology, and global nutrition, with focus on undernutrition and food systems.
- Global nutrition had more openness to animal-source foods and nutrient density than conventional low-fat nutrition.
- Work on US dietary guidance, nutrient density, food processing, and global public health came from outside standard dietetics dogma.
Nutrition science and bias
- Harvard-style nutritional epidemiology often yields plant-forward answers through observational models vulnerable to residual confounding.
- PURE changed the dataset by going global, and modeling choices can shift nutrition conclusions even with identical data.
- Small hazard ratios and odds ratios are weak foundations for clinical advice when they do not align with trials or common sense.
- Observational results should generate hypotheses; randomized, controlled, or prospective testing should carry more weight.
Diet fit and food environment
- Different dietary patterns can work because genetics, goals, preferences, adherence, and personal trigger foods differ.
- Low fat can work for some people, lower carb can work for others, and long-term adherence matters more than short-term compliance.
- The modern food environment exposes people to foods they cannot moderate, especially sugar, refined carbs, and ultra-processed products.
- Sugary sodas have no nutritional value beyond water and create nutritional harm.
Nutrient adequacy and food quality
- Micronutrient inadequacy is widespread in the US and globally, including iron, choline, magnesium, potassium, vitamin E, zinc, calcium, B12, and vitamin A.
- Food quality has to include vitamins, minerals, protein quality, omega-3 form, calorie density, fiber, nutrient ratios, processing, and bioavailability.
- Heme iron, preformed vitamin A, zinc, DHA, and EPA show why animal foods often supply nutrients in more usable forms than plant foods.
- Plant foods still contribute vitamin C, potassium, vitamin E, magnesium, fiber, and many compounds outside essential nutrient lists.
- Fiber is not required for life, but it can help or hurt depending on the person, gut tolerance, satiety, and microbial response.
Nutritional Value Score
- The Nutritional Value Score combines priority vitamins, minerals, protein quantity and quality, omega-3s, calorie density, fiber, nutrient ratios, and ultra-processing.
- Dark green leafy vegetables, organ meats, fish, seafood, non-starchy vegetables, unprocessed red meat, eggs, legumes, poultry, yogurt, nuts, and seeds score well.
- Soft drinks, grain-based sweets, instant noodles, salty snack foods, refined grains, and other sweets cluster near the bottom.
- Small dried fish, anchovies, sardines, fatty fish, shellfish, and organs are among the most nutrient-dense individual foods.
- Eggs score solidly but not perfectly because the score measures quantified nutritional value, not whether a food can anchor a whole diet.
Context matters
- Hot dogs and bologna can fit a low-carb emergency or travel context even though their score falls with processing and sodium-to-potassium concerns.
- A low-carb or ketogenic filter could reasonably change scoring weights for sodium, saturated fat, fiber, and carbohydrate-related ratios.
- Food scoring should allow dietary context, such as keto, vegan, vegetarian, or omnivorous patterns, because constraints change the practical question.
- Restrictive diets can reduce overeating partly by limiting variety and removing highly rewarding trigger foods.
Carbohydrates and metabolic context
- Many traditional populations ate substantial starch or carbohydrate without modern metabolic disease.
- The human body can thrive with carbohydrates or without carbohydrates, depending on the person and context.
- High carbohydrate intake is poorly matched to many clinic patients with severe obesity, insulin resistance, knee pain, and low activity.
- DIETFITS-style work shows both high-fat/low-carb and low-fat/high-carb approaches can improve insulin resistance when food quality improves.
Animal-source foods and environment
- The conventional environmental message that animal foods are simply worse for the planet is too simple.
- Animal-source foods have nutritional strengths, environmental costs, and production trade-offs that depend on food type, location, ecosystem, and scale.
- Livestock can harm land and emissions when produced poorly, but circular systems can use grass, crop residues, and inedible plant materials.
- Legumes and diverse plant systems can supply nitrogen, but plant-only agriculture is not an automatic solution for soil, nutrients, or ecosystems.
- Large ruminant populations existed historically on North American grasslands, but modern land ownership, markets, and production systems limit direct revival.
- Better animal-food production requires best practices, incentives, ecological fit, and recognition that there is a limit.
Guidelines and common ground
- The 2025–2030 US dietary guideline process included a scientific group with sections on vegetarian and vegan nutrient adequacy and life-stage nutrition.
- The strongest common ground is real food, nutrient density, lower ultra-processed foods, lower refined carbohydrates, and lower added sugar.
- Criticism often targets messaging, graphics, process, and transparency more than the core food guidance.
- The new guidance puts animal-source and plant-source proteins on the same level, unlike prior guidance that pushed more plant protein.
- A middle-ground view can look extreme when the old mainstream sits far toward one side.
References
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[00:59] Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution — https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dr-Atkins-New-Diet-Revolution/Robert-C-Atkins/9781493092598
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[01:10] The Protein Power Lifeplan — https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-r-eades-md/the-protein-power-lifeplan/9780446678674/
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[01:12] Ornish Lifestyle Medicine — https://ornish.com/
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[02:31] Effect of 6-Month Adherence to a Very Low Carbohydrate Diet Program — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0002-9343(02)01129-4
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[03:02] A Low-Carbohydrate, Ketogenic Diet versus a Low-Fat Diet to Treat Obesity and Hyperlipidemia — https://doi.org/10.7326/0003-4819-140-10-200405180-00006
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[03:02] Effect of a Low-Carbohydrate, Ketogenic Diet Program Compared to a Low-Fat Diet on Fasting Lipoprotein Subclasses — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijcard.2005.08.034
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[03:02] The Effect of a Low-Carbohydrate, Ketogenic Diet versus a Low-Glycemic Index Diet on Glycemic Control in Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus — https://doi.org/10.1186/1743-7075-5-36
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[07:40] Associations of Fats and Carbohydrate Intake with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality in 18 Countries from Five Continents (PURE) — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(17)32252-3
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[08:55] The Carbohydrate-Insulin Model of Obesity: Beyond “Calories In, Calories Out” — https://doi.org/10.1001/jamainternmed.2018.2933
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[14:48] Ultra-Processed Diets Cause Excess Calorie Intake and Weight Gain: An Inpatient Randomized Controlled Trial of Ad Libitum Food Intake — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cmet.2019.05.008
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[21:04] Micronutrient Deficiencies Among Preschool-Aged Children and Women of Reproductive Age Worldwide — https://doi.org/10.1016/S2214-109X(22)00367-9
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[22:14] Nutrient-Dense Foods and Diverse Diets Are Important for Ensuring Adequate Nutrition Globally — https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2319007121
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[25:33] Perspective: Nutrient Bioavailability Is the Missing Ingredient Connecting Food Systems to Nutrition Security and Environmental Sustainability — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ajcnut.2026.101253
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[27:14] Hunter-Gatherer Energetics and Human Obesity — https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0040503
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[28:53] Effect of Low-Fat vs Low-Carbohydrate Diet on 12-Month Weight Loss in Overweight Adults and the Association With Genotype Pattern or Insulin Secretion: The DIETFITS Randomized Clinical Trial — https://doi.org/10.1001/jama.2018.0245
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[29:02] Weight, Insulin Resistance, Blood Lipids, and Diet Quality Changes Associated with Ketogenic and Ultra Low-Fat Dietary Patterns: A Secondary Analysis of the DIETFITS Randomized Clinical Trial — https://doi.org/10.3389/fnut.2023.1220020
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[29:35] Nutritional Value Score Rates Foods Based on Nutrient Density and Noncommunicable Disease Prevention — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tjnut.2026.101443
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[42:45] Friend or Foe? The Role of Animal-Source Foods in Healthy and Environmentally Sustainable Diets — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.tjnut.2022.10.016
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[50:51] Scientific Foundation for the Dietary Guidelines for Americans — https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific%20Report.pdf
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[50:51] The Scientific Foundation for the Dietary Guidelines for Americans Appendices — https://cdn.realfood.gov/Scientific%20Report%20Appendices.pdf
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[51:08] Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2025–2030 — https://cdn.realfood.gov/DGA.pdf
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[08:05] “There’s a lot of issues with the observational, where you have this residual confounding. Even though you try to adjust for all of the confounding, you can’t really adjust for it all.”
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[10:05] “1.4 hazard ratio or odds ratio is the best we see… I’m sorry, it’s not large enough. It’s not big enough.”
Why humans can't thrive on plants alone.
When you think of animal fat, what comes to mind? Unsightly blobs of cellulite? Artery-clogging strips of gristle to be trimmed off your steak and tossed into the trash? Or a sophisticated substance that contains within it the secret to human intelligence?
- Fat is not just for insulation and energy storage; it’s also for nutrient absorption, cell signaling, and other critical processes.
- DHA is a fatty acid that humans can't function without, but the fewer animal foods a person eats, the lower their DHA levels tend to be.
- The easiest way to obtain DHA is to include some fatty fish in one's diet.
Ryan VanderWolk tells his story
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Background and first diet model
- Ryan came to carnivore after teaching nutrition and fitness for almost a decade, stepping away for music and bathroom-remodeling work, and then returning after his own health drifted.
- His first model was the standard fitness-template diet: six meals per day, oatmeal and protein in the morning, lean proteins, low fat, complex carbs, protein snacks, vegetables and meat at night, and casein protein before bed.
- That model looked valid because bodybuilding examples, fitness-model diets, certifications, continuing education, expert voices, client progress, exercise structure, and movement away from junk food all reinforced it.
- The bigger lesson is blind spots: a person can be sincere, educated, paid, certified, and still pass on a model that later turns out to be antibbiological.
Keto, carnivore, and the 60-day test
- After seeing himself heavier in music-video footage in 2022, Ryan returned to nutrition research and heard for the first time that there is no essential carbohydrate.
- In early 2023, he tested keto with salads, avocados, olive oil, vinegar dressing, greens, onions, peppers, lean meat, and eggs; mental acuity, sleep, weight, and GERD improved, but the diet still had cheating and plant-food blind spots.
- In October 2023, carnivore became the first diet model where the pieces all fit: only animal foods, no carbohydrate need, no fiber requirement, and food he already loved.
- For the final 10 weeks of 2023, he consumed carnivore material, stocked beef, tallow, butter, ghee, bacon fat, salt, and other basics, then set January 1, 2024 as a 60-day test.
- Within three weeks, the result was obvious enough that the planned cheat no longer appealed; by six weeks, the diet had become too effective to interrupt.
Health changes during carnivore
- In the first 60 days, energy, mental clarity, recall, work performance, sleep quality, and sleep efficiency rose sharply.
- Chronic GERD had been severe enough to require an endoscopy in 2023, with early Barrett's esophagus damage and an omeprazole recommendation.
- Longstanding SVT, eczema, delayed visual adjustment, panic attacks, digestive issues, joint pain, lower-back pain, and old ACL-related knee soreness were part of the baseline problem list.
- Within six weeks, every symptom was either gone or reduced to a manageable level, and later the remaining issues disappeared.
- From January 1, 2024 to March 1, 2025, Ryan stayed perfectly carnivore for 14 months, reached the best shape and health of his life, and felt as if he had taken 20 years off his age.
The cat lesson
- Nine years earlier, Ryan adopted a FeLV-positive shelter cat that was expected to live about a year to a year and a half, with damaged lungs, bad teeth, bad gums, missing fur, coughing fits, and no meow.
- Researching cats made the diet lesson concrete: cats are obligate hypercarnivores, so the household built a raw-food process with freezer storage, grinding, supplements, omega balance, water, bone, skin, fat, and exact ratios.
- The cat lived nine years and became a full, long-haired, healthy-looking animal, which reinforced the idea that species-specific nutrition can change the course of decline.
- That experience combined with Ryan's own dietary progression made the earlier teaching feel wrong, even though he had not known it was wrong at the time.
Tour relapse and fiber
- After 14 perfect months, Ryan deliberately broke the diet during Japan and Europe touring, eating ramen, takoyaki, convenience-store foods, catering, pizza, sugar, starch, and mixed meals.
- In roughly a month, he gained about 20 pounds, and eczema, heartburn, SVT, digestive distress, and other issues returned.
- Fiber became the clearest example of a blind spot: he had taught that everyone needs fiber, but carbohydrates and fiber are not essential.
- Microbiome-diversity evidence does not settle the issue for Ryan, because large parts of human history and many populations had little or no fiber, and carnivorous animals do not seek dietary fiber except incidentally through prey contents or hair.
- On carnivore, bowel function became better and less frequent, gas and bloating disappeared, and reintroducing plant foods made the digestive contrast unmistakable.
Blind spots in plant-food nutrition
- Nutritional epidemiology can isolate a positive nutrient in a plant, such as quercetin in onions or vitamins in broccoli, while ignoring the negative side of the same food package.
- The crack-cocaine analogy makes the point: a pleasant or beneficial effect does not prove the whole item is good once downstream consequences are included.
- Plant foods bring fiber plus plant-defense compounds such as phytic acid, tannins, oxalic acid, saponins, flavonoids, lectins, phytates, and oxalates.
- Fiber mechanically passes through a digestive tract that cannot digest cellulose, while protease, lipase, and amylase show that human digestion is built around protein, fat, and limited carbohydrate handling.
Digestive biology and anthropology
- Comparing 10 carnivorous animals, 10 herbivorous animals, and humans makes the human digestive system look carnivorous: monogastric, acid-producing, simple, and suited to meat and fat.
- Herbivores require fermentation systems, large ceca, complex stomachs, massive colons, cud-chewing, hind-gut fermentation, or special fecal reuptake mechanisms to extract nutrients from cellulose.
- Humans have very strong stomach acid, similar to carnivores and second only to vultures in the comparison used here, which fits scavenging or meat digestion better than herbivory.
- Human traits such as forward-facing eyes, bipedality, shoulder mobility, hunting ability, and brain development fit a carnivorous anthropology story better than a plant-centered story.
- Red meat is the ultimate human food because it carries all nine essential amino acids, cofactors, fat, collagen, and other animal-source materials in a digestible package.
Animals, species-specific diets, and modern food
- Every animal in nature follows a species-specific diet, while humans are the unusual animal that manufactures food, pays for it, and then loses instinct.
- Wild animals have acute problems such as injury, predation, infection, and harsh conditions, but chronic human-style disease is not the normal species-specific pattern.
- Raccoons near human food waste and dogs eating human-style snacks show the same principle: human food can create metabolic problems in other animals.
- Red pandas look like an exception because they have a carnivore-style digestive system but eat bamboo; habitat loss and lost competitive advantage help explain the mismatch.
- Herbivores graze all day because plants are low-density and hard to extract from, while carnivores eat nutrient-dense meals and rest; humans on carnivore work the same way.
Fuel mixing, diabetes, and practical transition
- Most animals keep a main diet and do not build mixed plates, and mixing carbohydrate with fat creates a fuel-conflict problem like gasoline and diesel in one car.
- The Randle cycle helps explain why glucose enters the blood first and why that should be read as urgent disposal, not proof that glucose is the preferred fuel.
- On carnivore, the triglyceride-HDL-blood-sugar triangle improves, type 2 diabetes has been easy to reverse in Ryan's coaching experience, and type 1 diabetes can need much less insulin.
- Most people should rip the band-aid off into high-fat carnivore, while some may need care around oxalate dumping, medication changes, and the first-month roller coaster.
- The first month can swing between feeling excellent and feeling awful, but once the microbiome changes and ketogenesis takes over, the benefits become obvious.
References
- [00:13] The Biology of Human Starvation — https://doi.org/10.5749/j.ctv9b2tqv
- [00:22] Feline Leukemia Virus — https://www.vet.cornell.edu/departments/cornell-feline-health-center/health-information/feline-health-topics/feline-leukemia-virus
- [00:26] Feeding Your Cat — https://www.vet.cornell.edu/departments-centers-and-institutes/cornell-feline-health-center/health-information/feline-health-topics/feeding-your-cat
- [00:32] The Gut Microbiome, Aging, and Longevity: A Systematic Review — https://doi.org/10.3390/nu12123759
- [00:32] Diversity of the gut-microbiome related to cognitive behavioral outcomes in healthy older adults — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.archger.2021.104464
- [00:42] The Evolution of Stomach Acidity and Its Relevance to the Human Microbiome — https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0134116
- [00:50] Enhanced access to anthropogenic food waste is related to hyperglycemia in raccoons (Procyon lotor) — https://doi.org/10.1093/conphys/coy026
- [00:55] The evolution of the gut microbiota in the giant and the red pandas — https://doi.org/10.1038/srep10185
- [00:59] The Glucose Fatty-Acid Cycle: Its Role in Insulin Sensitivity and the Metabolic Disturbances of Diabetes Mellitus — https://doi.org/10.1016/S0140-6736(63)91500-9
- [01:00] The Expensive-Tissue Hypothesis: The Brain and the Digestive System in Human and Primate Evolution — https://doi.org/10.1086/204350
For anybody following at home, don't try this party trick until your 3 months plant free. We are not sure of the exact mechanisms involved, but people on keto don't have the same experience.