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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/887096

I mean anything like cursed or lucky objects, ghosts, etc?

Figured it's the spooky season and I don't know too many people irl to talk to about the supernatural without discovering q-level brainworms.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reposting what I coincidentally wrote yesterday:

Well, a properly scientific view is not dogmatically opposed to concepts that are culturally associated with mysticism. The CPC made a point to investigate and for a time even promoted qi stuff before they felt certain it was nonsense and rejected it. If something under the umbrella of "magic" can observably produce change in the material world, demonstrate it! Such a thing would almost certainly be useful.

The problem is that many new-age pagans take on their "beliefs" about magic as essentially a roleplay: they know deep down it doesn't work but proclaim that it does because the social mindset of it working is somehow involved in its actual use as what amounts to a therapeutic religious practice. There is more in common with Tumblr moon witches and qanon posters than either group would like to admit.

[–] WithoutFurtherRelay@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is more in common with Tumblr moon witches and qanon posters than either group would like to admit.

The comeback of Tumblr hate is starting to concern me

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The moon witches are less on Twitter now. Would you have preferred I say tiktok? I am less familiar with those

[–] WithoutFurtherRelay@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you want to bring back 4chan-era barely-disguised queerbashing than go ahead, I guess

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know that's not how I mean it.

[–] WithoutFurtherRelay@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m not talking about your intent. Tumblr was, as far as I can gather from my knowledge of internet history, a kind of social media sacrifical trash heap. It was derided, and continues to be derided, for all of its flaws, not because those flaws are actually significant enough to warrant that much distaste but because it has the gall to be even somewhat progressive. This phenomenon is fueled by anyone from the outside criticizing the sacrifical idol, regardless of whether they are doing so from a place of leftist analysis or knee jerk reaction.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look, like I said, Tumblr is like one of two places with a noticeable community of mostly young people having made up politics centered on literal magic (along with tiktok). There's plenty of figurative idolatry, astrology, etc. on Twitter, but the literal segment sharply decreased (at least in visibility) since Elon fucked the platform and wacko reactionaries became the norm. On the other hand, my whole point is that these Tumblr communities have a significant amount in common with the traditionally 4chan centered qanon, reading tea leaves about secret events that absolutely just aren't happening as a way of feeling hopefully engaged in a made-up political reality.

What do you want me to do? Pretend the witches are on Facebook? You'll find more Q boomers there if anything.

[–] WithoutFurtherRelay@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I understood what you meant. I agree with the concept, but not the characterization.

What do you want me to do? Pretend the witches are on Facebook? You'll find more Q boomers there if anything.

Probably show solidarity with a community that has presence on this site

[–] disownthelibs@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Religion shouldn’t interfere with the realm of medicine, it shouldn’t promote cishet supremacy, it shouldn’t promote racism, most types of nationalism, like region has a lane it needs to stay in and most importantly they shouldn’t be making any fucking money.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, but that's not really what I was discussing.