Leftist Infighting

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Self-styled “anarchists” decrying revolutionary violence as “authoritarian” and “oppressive” are so on my nerves. (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by calcifiedNeurotic@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml

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Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because we don't want to be sectarian and have seen at least two or three good anarchists (like our comrade nakoichi), so we are simply talking about the ultras and other shitheads who call themselves anarchists while avoiding the question of if there is a fundamental problem with anarchism that is substantially connected to those assholes appropriating it.

Also you don't need to put scarequotes on a "Trot" you are insulting because calling them a Trot is a much graver insult. Sectarianism as an ideology in itself deserves no respect.

[+] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean, I think it also helps keep the anarchists in check about MLs so they don't do the "red fash" routine.

Opinion is split on Trots, e.g. the aforementioned comrade nakoichi is weirdly protective of them (I like him one-sidedly, but he is wrong about that and I will post pika-pickaxe to the fucking grave) and has seemingly removed many of my comments about them.

And, like, you can easily get fighting between Maoists and MLs, but there again the non-sectarian rule is doing what it should for the most part. Maybe it isn't strong enough and people are still too hard on Maoists, idk. It's especially a problem there because they need to deal with the legacy of the fucking Gonzalites calling themselves Maoists.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

A rule against sectarianism doesn't ban substitive critiques, it bans excessive dunking and precludes stuff like mods removing comments on sectarian grounds (as you occasionally see comments removed for being liberal or reactionary).

The trick, as always, is in how it's enforced.

[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Even this site is sadly subject to all biases and issues currently present in the anglosphere.