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Self-styled “anarchists” decrying revolutionary violence as “authoritarian” and “oppressive” are so on my nerves. (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 2 years ago by calcifiedNeurotic@lemmygrad.ml to c/leftistinfighting@lemmygrad.ml

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Do they think the Catalan Anarchists had no bourgeois blood on their hands? Do they think the Makhnovites never executed counterrevolutionaries? Fucking idiots. I preferred it when anarchists actually threw pipe bombs.

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've run into a number of Greek anarchists whose complaints of the USSR boiled down to "Stalin didn't send enough weapons or troops and abandoned us"

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Easy to understand why they'd be pissed about that. Sounds like the same idea as the "Stalin shouldn't have stopped at Berlin" meme but with the opposite sentiment than it's usually used with.

[–] Nematodes@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also the USSR refused to openly support Spanish anarchists during the Spanish civil war.

They just let them get eaten alive slowly by the fascists.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The USSR was also sending weapons to the larger and more effective republicans. It was one of the only countries to send arms to the antifascist forces, if not the only.

[–] Nematodes@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Yes but they did so very limitedly and did not publically support them. France also supported them but only in secret and not during the end of the civil war.

The USSR, along with every other government, chose to remain relavitivly silent when their support ( which was repeatedly asked for ) could have opened the door to greater acceptance by other world powers.

You see that is the anarchist critique of the USSR and communism in general. That the structure of communism still requires the state. And thus they will be similar to capitalist regimes in function & form.

During the Spanish civil war the USSR chose to do the same thing as the US and Britton for the same reasons. To turn their backs on a legitimate left government fighting reactionary fascist rebels. Simply because it would cost to much. Or would make them vulnerable to facists attack.