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Hi, English isn't my mother tongue so I was asking myself that question since I first encounted a w/... Back then I was like: "What tf does 'w slash' stand for?" And when I found out I was like "How, why, and is it any intuitive?" But I never dared to ask that until now

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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 120 points 10 months ago

All in all, the / is just one style of abbreviation used in English. It's not only used for "with", but also a few other words (w/o = without, N/A = not applicable).

In German we abbreviate using a dot (e.g. "m." = "mit" = "with). That's not more or less intuitive, it's just what you are used to.

What's kinda special with English is that there are multiple abbreviation styles. Off the top of my head I can think of six styles:

  • Abbreviate random parts of words using a slash: "N/A", "w/", "w/o"
  • Abbreviate keeping only the first letter of a word using a dot: "e.g."
  • Abbreviate keeping the first and some random later consonants (and sometimes consonants that aren't in the word at all) without using punctuation: Dr, Mr, Ms, Mrs
  • Abbreviate using acronyms and no punctuation: BBC
  • Abbreviate using acronyms and dots: B.C.
  • Abbreviate by substituting parts of the word with a single letter: Xmas (Christmas), Xing (Crossing)
[-] deranger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Don’t forget re: which means regarding or in reference to, not reply.

[-] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

... I think it's actually a Latin word, "re,", meaning, "the matter (subject)" not an abbreviation at all.

[-] user134450@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah this is a real pet peeve of mine.

In German many people, web mailers and also sometimes even email software use "AW:" (short for AntWort) instead of "Re:" and then some of them don't even recognize the existence of a previous "AW:" or "Re:" giving you such wondrous email subjects as: "AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: AW: Re: AW: Re: really important subject" 🤦

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Oh, that totally works with a single language too: "Re: Re: Re:..." or "AW: AW: AW:..." seen both of that often enough.

[-] user134450@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yes indeed. i keep being confused how email can still suck so much sometimes when it had decades to mature.

[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Massive amounts of federation ;)

It's really hard to get thousands of software development companies, hundreds of thousands of hosters and billions of users to unitedly go for a new thing.

[-] railsdev@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It would make much more sense these days to simply leave the subject line intact then have the mail client display the “reply” or “forwarded” lingo on its own.

It’s a computer so it should be smart enough to know what’s happening by looking at the headers. I never understand when we make computers do stupid things instead of actually programming them to be smart. Otherwise what’s the point of using them?

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

“AW: Re: AW: Re: AW: AW: Re: AW: Re:

Ah, yes, you get forwards from my boomer-aged father, too!

[-] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The Foreword? Or is that answer? Forward in English would be the author's message at the beginning of a book.

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