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Open hatred of Jews surges globally, inflamed by Gaza war
(www.reuters.com)
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It's interesting how often people who oppose the existence of Israel (not to be confused with being rightfuly critical of its actions) are the first too make us feel unwelcome and tell Jew who facing antisemitism outside of Israel, that we just need to deal with it (and even expect it, acording to you), and if we don't like it, we should just leave.. But where is it we should be going..?
It's almost as if what you really want is for Jews to just not exist.
It's as if antizionism is like antisemitism 🤔
Oh wait, they're literally the same. Most "antizionists" I've known and also seen online are covert antisemites.
I do think there can be legitimate criticism of Israel and zionism that is not antisemitic (like accepting that Jews deserve a safe place to live on our ancestral land, but also that ethno-states are a bad thing), but I do agree that, especially online almost all anti-zionism comes from an antisemitic place, or at least an ignorant one.
That person defined anti-semitism such that significant fraction of Jew are anti-semites by that definition.
Fascists commonly claim the entire nation equals "their brand of fascism" in order to imply that any who do not support their brand of fascism are traitors. Zionists went a step further and claim an entire religion equals "their brand of fascism" in order to imply that any who do not support their brand of fascism are racist against the whole religion.
Theirs is the playbook of Fascism, with a few situation-specific adjustment.
and, as a Jewish anti-zionist, I disagreed with them.
But that still doesn't change the fact that actual antisemites hide behind the excuse of anti-zionism to continue to spread antisemitism. the thread we're commenting on is a live example of this, and minimising this fact helps the antisemites.
True.
The conflating of Zionism with all of Israel and with the Jewish Religion as a whole has been very useful for the Israeli far right and the cost has been paid by Jews all over the World who have nothing to do with those fascists.
Similary, the accompanying strategy of throwing the accusation of anti-semitism left, right and center at any criticism of Israel or Zionism has had a "the boy who cried wolf" effect: people don't really believe it anymore, so when real alerts for real anti-semitism are made, people just take them as the usual false slander for political purposes.
This was entirelly to be expected.
They are happy to no longer be any "covert" about it.
That's the whole point of inventing the "antizionist" term, it makes them feel less bad about themselves because they can look in the mirror and lie to themselves by saying "I'm not a Nazi, I'm just against a state". It's like how anti-abortionists prefer to call themselves "pro-life", it's less negative.
So since I say the same shit about the American government, what does that make me?
Especially since I live in America.
Nope one is about a terroristic government who kills children and journalists all willy nilly, the other is a religion/race, I've really understood how Jewish is a race but that is neither here nor there.
I hate the Israeli government but I can't think of a single jewish person i have met that i don't like.
Good food and friendly people from what I can tell.
And yet the israelis keep expanding into the west bank.
How about they just stay in Israel and quit expanding into other peoples countries?
That's fine, so how about people say that, instead of shit like "from the river to the sea"?
People making the point you just did are clearly not the one's I'm talking about, and pretending like no one thinks and says out loud that Jews have no place in the region is basically gaslighting.