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submitted 10 months ago by Rangelus@lemmy.nz to c/politics@lemmy.nz

National has lost 2 seats, while TMP has gained 2, and the Green party has gained 1. NACT now need NZF to govern.

Rachel Boyack has won Nelson by 21 votes, and Phil Twyford has won Te Atatū by 131 votes.

122 seats because of the overhang, which will rise to 123 after the Port Waikato by-election.

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[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 6 points 10 months ago

I’m sure Act had previously said the will refuse to work with NZF so coalition agreements may take some time

My suspicion is we're about to see that a lot of what Seymour says is bluster. He's also threatened to sit on the cross-benches and only support the government vote by vote. I doubt very much he'll stick to that, but we'll see I guess.

Either way, Act are potentially setting themselves up to fail. They've promised a lot, but probably won't be able to deliver on much of it (e.g. treaty referendum, much weaker climate policy). Minor coalition partners can find themselves badly punished by voters if they're not careful. Greens have managed to do a good job in recent years, but Act may not be able to do the same.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 5 points 10 months ago

My suspicion is we’re about to see that a lot of what Seymour says is bluster

He apparently changed his mind already: ACT's David Seymour reverses rule-out of working with Winston Peters in Cabinet

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 10 months ago

It will be interesting to see. By my count, National could go with NZF and TPM to form a government. While National has ruled out working with TPM, if Act are too unreasonable or difficult to work with, it could end up back on the table.

[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 3 points 10 months ago

TPM are a very different party than they were during the Key era. It would be very difficult for National & TPM to work together on anything but a handful of issues. It would probably be easier for National to work with the Greens.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, true. Only other option would be Labour, Greens, TPM, NZF. Not outside the realm of possibility but I'd say very unlikely. I think Labour would feel a term or two out of government would be better for their popularity than sneaking their way back in with such a deal. And I'm pretty sure Winnie said no to working with Labour (not that it means anything).

[-] SamC@lemmy.nz 2 points 10 months ago

Another election is also possible, and I'd say more likely than NZF going with labour. NZF will come around eventually to a deal with National. They know the alternatives could be bad for them. Same for Act

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