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Ukraine’s top general: War with Russia has reached stalemate
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Whilst the arrival of F16 and Grippen will help, it isn't going to be some magic bullet wonder system that will win the war for Ukraine.
They have been rocking HIMARS for about a year at this point, Lepoards, Challenger2, Bradley, Patriot, Gepard, Excalibur etc from their allies. Not to mention the home grown/home developed systems that have achieved parity and even arguably surpassed the Russian Naval impact from the Black Sea. And yet they're still at the point where they're pretty much at an attritional grind. Russia has done well to adapt to much of these systems and tactics, using the last winter as an example of where they shifted focus from trying to gain ground to simply holding what they have (a-la Germany following the strategic failure of Op Michael).
I will steadfastly support Ukraine and strongly believe that Russia absolutely needs to be stopped and shown that their Imperial actions cannot be allowed. But we also need to be realistic and realise this isn't as easy as we want it to be. That Russia aren't the complete drooling fools that we want to believe them to be.
It's true. The magic bullets would be agm-158s w CHAMP packages. Fry all electronics on the Russian side and everything from communications to launchers become useless while occupier coordination would become nonexistent. War would be ended and Ukraine restored with a lot less bloodshed if they were deployed.
Edit to add - Fun fact: Agm-158s are able to be launched by F-16s.
Would that also help with insane amount of mines, trenches and dumb ww2era weapons Russian is using to hold ground. Which seems to be the crux of the issue. Just like Ukrain shown, holding ground and digging in seems to be very effective strategy that might only be overcome with sheer numbers (and death...). Ukraine hope was finding a weak point in defense and punching through, but it seems that there are no real "weak" points so far. The question is, can allies provide Ukrain with weapons that can help with breaking through current defenses? So far it seems traditional weapons however advanced, don't solve the issue of dumb mines, trenchs, and dug in positions for either side..
They should be able get rid of the mine launchers that way, preventing more mines from being deployed rapidly. Already deployed mines are probably best dealt with by the new strategies developed by Ukraine this last year, UAVs with thermal optics showing differential cooling/heating.
Edit - didn't address trenches and dumb weapons: the value of trenches goes way down without air support and communication. Similarly, without russian radar and anti aircraft, many dumb weapons become much easier targets. So, quite possibly, yes.
That makes sense. Hopefully Ukrain gets the agms, and manages to breakthrough. I think that's the only hope, as I agree with others that the west will get tired and start to slow down support for Ukrain which will eventually lead to Russian victory. It become a war of attrition, if Ukraine manage breakthrough or outlast Russian ability to put ppl to grinder then they will manage to win, but honestly it feels as though Putin is ready to put everything on the line to win this...