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Supreme Court kills Biden student loan relief plan
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This is bad of course but must remember that this debt forgiveness was a dumb half assed plan from the start. Systematic change is the only thing that will help the working class.
Better then nothing. 20k can change peoples lives, forget that it’s half baked, any measure to help the proletarian is good.
Yeah agree, but they intentionally chose a long and winding path to get it done, one which allowed republicans to file an inevitable legal challenge. Undoubtedly this wasn't literally purely to sell out student debtors (i.e. me) for just pure malice, but instead they were thinking this is a nice middle path where we're not too radical but also standing by our commitment (a commitment that itself was a climb down from his previous commitments).
The effect, however, is the same. The best path was to immediately forgive the debt and force the court to claw it back, rather than to just nullify something that didn't truly exist yet. They chose this path knowing this was the likely outcome, but preferred it to something more radical that had a higher chance of success. I am not clear on the legal (let alone extra legal) paths available if the court is truly determined to even claw back the money, but they haven't been playing to win from the start.
Because when you have a bourgeois class of elected officials, consultants, lobbyists, and various other hangers on, they lose 100% of whatever genuine enthusiasm and connection they had to the rank and file of the party. It's no different than the SPD in 1915, only even less radical and more doomed to fail
They def have a legal path to doing it through the powers in the Higher Education Act of 1965. Just purposefully incompetent and chose this route knowing it'd probably fail
Agree with this as well - lots of people way smarter than the dem consultants running the white house have been saying they should use the HEA from the beginning. Especially because part of that legal path is a comments period that will take a long time. A long time that runs directly into the election, just another instance of Dems causing more political problems for themselves.
In reality though, laws are just words on paper. Standing, limits on judicial review, all this stuff only means anything if we all agree that it does. If (when) the court completely violates these previously held rules (nobody can stop them truly, see this completely fake gay discrimination case they ruled on if the student loans doesn't convince you), Biden has to either meet the challenge head on or save face while taking the L. He's already pre-empted today's ruling by saying that he would never "politicize the court" lol, so we know what his take is, and that is shared near universally among the people with pull inside the pary.
Political power springs from the ba...err from the bang of a gavel? Way less scary than growing from a gun, we hate those here
Well pretty uncontroversial that Mao was right ;)
Agreed just saying this was the compromise, the least they could do and they can't even do it.
Agreed, the root cause of this is that higher education is too expensive for the average person as the result of a system that chases monetary value at all cost.