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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Nagarjuna@hexbear.net to c/urbanism@hexbear.net

If you're thinking in tickets and arrests, you're not really thinking about justice.

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[-] Bassword@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

They're probably giving out fines too. China loves using small fines for minor crimes.

[-] PunsNRoses@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Still better than having your car towed to some impound lot several miles away, and having to pay an exorbitant fee to get your car out.

[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Small fines consistently applied are more effective than random large punishments in deterring crime. Some cities even have fair checkers who can't give out tickets, just ask you to get off at the next stop and it's just as effective.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

More effective than random large punishments, sure, but fines are still a fundamentally ineffective way of discouraging whatever behavior. If something is punishable by a fine, that means poor people aren't allowed to do it and rich people are, nothing more and nothing less.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Fine as a portion of income.

Or better yet, require the person do X hours community service.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Fine as a portion of income.

No, that really doesn't fix it. 50% of Elon Musk's income is an absurd, unfathomable amount of money, and it could vanish into the ether without affecting his quality of life at all. 50% of the average person's income would put them on the streets.

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