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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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"In agreeing to the settlement, the county and sheriff’s department admitted no wrongdoing in connection with the incident."
Awesome, so the taxpayers pay off the settlement and the sheriff's department faces no repercussions.
It's almost like there's a huge problem that isn't being addressed
(I agree with you)
Always has been...
Hey, the two deputies had to redo training though. Definitely not a culture problem in the LASD though. I mean they've only been investigated like multiple times by the FBI in the last decade including in the last few months and have a horrible reputation by the public at large.
They only have a horrible reputation because people like you won't stop talking about those times that they assaulted a human being while shitting on the constitution and violating human rights and then are only punished with some light training.
If you really think about it, it's your own fault that people won't forget that the LAPD has a deep-rooted culture problem that has been investigated multiple times by the FBI in the last decade and have a horrible reputation by the public at large.
I think it's time we try to be part of the solution and help out the LAPD by telling people to pay less attention to them.
Hey! Stop looking over here at the LAPD!!!
Don't investigate the multiple human rights violations committed by the LAPD that continue to this day!
Many reports have found that there are violent, malicious gangs in the LAPD, and you really shouldn't even think about that!
Don't forget that the LASD Union says that searching Deputies for gang tattoos violates their civil rights.