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submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Democrats have successfully flipped a seat in New Jersey’s General Assembly in a a deep-red district that has not elected a Democratic legislator in three decades.

Decision Desk HQ projects that Democrat Avi Schnall has won a seat in the assembly, unseating incumbent Republican Assemblyman Ned Thomson. Voters in each New Jersey legislative district choose two assembly members to represent them, so the contest was a four-way race featuring two Democrats and two Republicans.

Schnall was elected alongside incumbent Republican Assemblyman Sean Kean in the 30th district.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago

Yeah, apparently he spent a decade running an orthodox organization and taken millions from New Jersey public schools (where he was also in a high ranking education position) to buy bullshit "religious science" science textbooks and textbooks on how to learn Yiddish (but no other language) because public schools can "loan" books to private religious schools...

Also using taxpayer money to pay for private school bussing...

And while he pushed for an end to vaccination exemptions on religious grounds for public schools, wanted an exemption for private...

NJs public schools are in shambles, and this asshat is taking as much funding as he can to give it to religious indoctrination centers and coming up with reasons to increase their enrollment.

And that's not even getting into all the other shit that comes up in 2 seconds of an Internet search

It's just someone else pulling a Sinema. "Vote Blue no matter who" is better than a Republican being elected. But it just leads to shit like this where the general is one Republican with an R by their name. Against one Republican who suddenly has a D next to their name....

This dude is a rightwing religious extremist who realized just putting a D by his name is enough in our political system

[-] ares35@kbin.social 21 points 9 months ago

lakewood twp has a majority orthodox jewish population. he probably would have won a seat regardless of the label attached to his name on the ballot.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

That might be true.

The point is everyone else that isn't a far right religious extremist had to pick between one of those and a Republican

That's the issue.

The two party system means most voters don't have a real choice, which depresses turnout, and will lead to Republicans winning elections, or best case a Dem that doesn't actually support the basics of the Dem platform like "separation of church and state" which is a very low bar.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

elections there are different. TWO seats per district, two votes per ballot, from a list of all candidates. there were other choices with D and R labels attached.

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think his win clearly demonstrates that putting a D in front is actually insufficient. Had the label's effect been much greater than his actual beliefs, then his label would have resulted in a loss.

But, enough of the constituents of that district didn't seem vote for a label, they voted for his actual positions instead.

A genuine dem campaigning hard on progressive policies and messaging probably would have lost.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

What?

Seriously I can't follow any of your logic.

How do you know he wasn't elected because the only other alternative?

And if he didn't run on progressive policies like you said, what made him better than the Republican?

[-] ElleChaise@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

How do you know he wasn’t elected because the only other alternative?

How do you know he wasn't elected because people liked his politics?

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I guess it's simple enough to get to the bottom of, did he campaign on democratic party platforms and messaging? Has he called for abortion rights, gun control and greater business regulation?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I compared him to Sinema...

I thought it was obvious that some politicians lie. So even if he claimed progressive policies, that doesn't mean he's not just lying. I highly doubt many Republicans who switch to D just before running in an election honestly had a sudden change of heart.

But you're saying if he supported that stuff he'd have lost, now youre saying he did support that stuff...

I'm sorry, maybe it's me but I can't understand what point you're trying to make here. I'm not seeing any logical consistency

And I don't think that's going to be as easy to change as a letter by a republicans name.

But maybe you should take a minute to Google a politician before blindly supporting them like you just did? That's pretty much the blind support based only on the letter by someone's name I was just complaining about

[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I did not say he supported that stuff, I asked if he had. My sentence ended in a question mark, because it was an honest question.

If he had called for abortion rights, for instance, then that is calling for abortion rights. It's publicly supporting that position in the public space.

Do recall, my original thesis is "we will see how he votes." I have not expressed any support or opposition to him, merely caution and a wish to observe.

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