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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 136 points 11 months ago

This is fundamentally false.

While it is true that there was inexpensive housing available in the USSR, and that rents were quite reasonable compared to anything that currently exists in the US, and people couldn't readily be evicted if they lacked the ability to pay, it's a flat-out lie to say that that was the "solution" to homelessness, or that it eliminated the problem. Rather, the USSR criminalized being homeless and not being engaged in socially-productive labor; people that were homeless ended up in prisons and were labelled as parasites. The problem that we have now is that the official records simply didn't record the problem, in much the same way that Stalin had histories and photos revised to eliminate people that had become enemies of the state.

[-] TheScaryDoor@startrek.website 16 points 11 months ago

Rather, the USSR criminalized being homeless and not being engaged in socially-productive labor; people that were homeless ended up in prisons and were labelled as parasites.

Swap USSR with USA and the statement remains true. Though Im sure the degree of severity was much greater in the USSR.

[-] rchive@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's kind of true in some parts of the US, indirectly. Some places criminalize not being homeless but all the things that are the result of being homeless like sleeping outside or in public places. But there are a lot of places in the US that do provide for the homeless. New York City has a right to housing provision, for example.

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That's the problem with generalizing the United States. Every state has a different approach to the problem.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

And it fucking shouldnt be the case. Ensuring basic humanity and human dignity should be a key matter of the federal government and not delegated to the whimps of states opinions on waht constitutes human rights.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Well, shelter is not a human right that our government recognizes.

[-] rchive@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

If we set a national policy today and didn't allow local governments to set their own policies, I'm pretty sure we'd have a national policy of no help for the homeless at all. Be happy the places that do have support are allowed to because of states' rights.

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