646

The Gfycat service is being discontinued. Please save or delete your Gfycat content by visiting https://www.gfycat.com and logging in to your account. After September 1, 2023, all Gfycat content and data will be deleted from gfycat.com

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] 1st@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

I wonder if the internet, possibly the worlds best accomplishment in cooperation, can survive a post-globalist world?

Perhaps it’s the purist expression of the wave in optimism for liberalised trade before it crested and rolled back out to sea.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I think these services need to think about monetization from the beginning rather than the "make product, get users, ???, Profit".

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

TFW Calico Cut Pants has a better business model than 90% of websites in the world. It's 100% user funded. You gotta give!

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If you don't give, it could go dark

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I think the beauty of decentralization is that in many ways monetization doesn't have to be necessary. Or it can be necessary on a much smaller scale. A big company like Twitter or Reddit or Facebook needs to make money on a massive scale. A small company, like somebody running a big Lemmy instance, doesn't need to answer to investors who expect a 10x return. They just have to cover their costs and maybe make a buck. So we go back to the old days like when we had independent forums, half of them were just free as a labor of love, the other half had a banner ad or two and maybe some way to support the site by donating. I think we were better off that way.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The utility of twitter, facebook and reddit is their ubiquity. They each, in their own way, became the place you go to find [thing], and federated services will never have that. Discovering mastodon users who aren't already followed on your instance is hard. Discovering lemmy communities that aren't already followed on your instance is slightly easier. They're never going to show up in Local if they're not local, and they're never going to show up in All if no local subscribes. Decentralization, even with federation, works against virality, and if there's not a steady flow of content, then few people bother to sign up.

The instances get exponentially more useful as they get larger, but the costs of operation also get exponentially larger. If lemmy catches on, instances will absolutely grow beyond donations.

[-] Garrathian@dmv.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think while Mastodon and Lemmy don't solve those issues particularly well at the moment I'm still confident they are solvable problems.

As for costs, I don't think it'll be that bad. It's not nearly as expensive if you're just trying to cover expenses (and not focused entirely on growth and revenue), and if a server does get to a point where the admins are concerned about donations keeping up they can cut off sign ups. Push incoming users to other instances that can handle the extra load (or spin up new ones if no more remain). It won't be the cleanest process and the inconvenience will make it tough to capture a lot of the potential incoming growth but Lemmy doesn't need to chase that growth entirely. It can grow at its own pace and handle what it can handle.

[-] obinice@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Thankfully we won't need to find out, there's no evidence that we're in a post globalist world, or entering one any time soon.

The EU and friendly ties via NATO are a great example, nations are realising more than ever that they must come together and work together to survive, and the Internet continues to make the world smaller, our communities closer.

Not to mention the ever growing essential economic links between nations.

There's the occasional missteps of course, some xenophobes and fascists in various nations want to close their borders and essentially become North Korea, but that'll never happen, it would be far, far too damaging for those nations if they actually listened to that vocal minority.

[-] 1st@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I hope you’re right.

I feel ratcheting tensions. The rise of far right, anti-immigration policies. The new Cold War between China and the Us forcing countries to pick sides. Tariffs. Cyber warfare. Extrajudicial killings.

Im expecting a “We didn’t start the fire” 2025 edition

[-] MonochromeLadybug@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Im expecting a “We didn’t start the fire” 2025 edition

Fallout boy released their own updated version 4 days ago. Just like everything else, it doesn't even come close to measuring up to the past.

[-] 1st@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Haha, oh really wow - I’ll have to give it a listen

this post was submitted on 02 Jul 2023
646 points (97.9% liked)

Technology

59757 readers
4050 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS