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[-] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 91 points 9 months ago

People are fighting ads and switching browsers.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] teft@startrek.website 111 points 9 months ago

Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I went from Netscape to Mozzila and from Mozilla to Firefox and, guess what... my browser never fucked me up in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

Google was already a wholly untrustworth Ad Company With A Tech Arm back when they invented Chrome, and shit like this was already back then a question of WHEN, not IF.

[-] Teknikal@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

My recommendation is librefox and if you really want a chrome based alternative I'd suggest Thorium (although I don't know what thorium will do when this is implemented I'm hoping they don't follow it.)

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox's engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple's engine), and Blink (Google's engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I'd no idea there's a browser called Conkeror. That's prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE's Konqueror browser.

[-] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 9 months ago
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago
[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 9 months ago

I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Pale Moon still supports the even older extension model. I used it briefly until my extensions got updated to the newer format. I still kinda miss the old theme engine.

[-] Blorper59@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

I thought it was pronounced Kay Melly-on, so I never tried it because of the silly name.

Pihole will be unaffected.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

Every other Google Chromium fork will need to maintain an increasingly complex set of changes to the Google repository

Yet infinitely easier than building a new browser from the bottom up

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 9 months ago

I hear people say Chromium is bad for the web all the time but they all seem to think that Chromium = Chrome.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

Okay, would you like to elaborate beyond what I just said?

[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Because using Chromium and Chromium-based browsers reinforces Chrome's market share dominance which will harm comparability as more and more sites will only be tested against Chrome and in many cases refuse to serve pages to other browsers without user agent string fuckery.

It also cultivates dependence on Google for the extension ecosystem, etc

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Chromium source code is still controlled and gatekeept by Google

What? Chromium is open source. That's how Chromium-based browsers even exist.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 9 months ago

I see the disconnect now. You're mistaking "open source" for 'inherently good."

Uhhhh no you don't see anything. I didn't say anything like that.

the forks either have to either maintain an increasingly complex list of patches to apply to fix what Google does to Chromium (the browser that runs two thirds of the web) or simply accept it.

And they do the former.

So I ask again, what's the problem?

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 9 months ago

Yes, you did. In your first comment in this thread.

If you're just going to blatantly and plainly lie about what I said, where everyone can see it, I'm not going to continue engaging with you. Bye now 👋

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

Which in no way resembles "open source is inherently good", but thank you for reading my comments back to me.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
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