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Sacha Baron Cohen is one classy son of a bitch.
He played Ali G. He risked his life interviewing conservatives. He infuriated the Kazakhstan government.
More recently though, he has spent his time complaining about the rise of antisemitism when he himself has done a fair amount of work contributing to it while in the character of Borat.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/sacha-baron-cohen-tells-tiktok-its-creating-biggest-antisemitic-movement-since-nazis/
“In my country there is problem and that problem is the Jew”
https://youtu.be/Vb3IMTJjzfo
Yeah, you could argue that he was only making a joke or a political statement about latent antisemitism that was already present in society, but if he were the police (and he kinda IS policing antisemitism now), this would be called entrapment.
What do you think Borat was, a bloody documentary?
You're missing the point. He deliberately encouraged people to express antisemitism and now he's complaining that people are expressing more antisemitism.
Do you think the people joking about things as he does, want more anti-semitism? Do you think he is responsible because they expressed their actual feelings, whereas he was doing it for comedy? Their feelings existed whether he drew it out or not.
Well, if an undercover cops manages to instigate you to do something illegal, the underlying desire to do it must have already been there, otherwise you'd just tell him to fuck off. But entrapment is still illegal because if he hadn't provided you with a chance to do it, you may not have followed through after all.
What you seem to be saying is "entrapment is fine as long as it's done to people I hate".
Well I’m not arguing that what he did should be illegal, just that I consider it bad taste.
It’s like if I went and did a standup routine consisting of Holocaust jokes and then a couple of years later complained about a rise in antisemitism.
If he was serious, he should at least publicly acknowledge that he DID contribute to the issue and formally distance himself from his old work. Otherwise, it just seems rather disingenuous.
No, it's just you.
Ah, okay. Great argument, I’m totally convinced now. /s
I have responded enough already, you don't want to be convinced and you are entrenched in your views that a Jewish guy is anti-semitic, and, as a comedian, needs to repent for poking fun at racists in the way that he did and nothing else could possibly be correct.
"If he was serious" about what? It's of no interest to pick holes in your already Leedammer-esque 'arguments'.
Where, by the way?
Didn't I post a link already?
Apparently so, I just asked where. Your point is a fallacy though.
Ah, okay then. The good old “you’re wrong because I say so.”
That's not what a fallacy is.
Simply calling something a fallacy doesn't make it one.
I didn't say it did, but it was a fallacy, and your response doesn't negate that.
Yeah unless you can explain WHY it's a fallacy, that's just your opinion.
I don't have to explain everything to you. You can search online for what a fallacy is to understand the concept first, then look at why I said it.
It's still not my opinion just because you don't understand it.
I understand the concept of what a fallacy is. But like I said, unless you can explain what KIND of fallacy you think my argument is, simply calling it a fallacy thinking you've proven anything is a fallacy in and of itself. I don't need to make your arguments for you if you want me to be convinced of what you're saying.
Adding an ad hominem on top just shows you have no idea what a fallacy even is.
"that’s just your opinion" "It’s still not my opinion just because you don’t understand it"
About the same. You aren't willing to be convinced of anything as I said, so no point anyway.
I'm willing to be convinced by reason and evidence, but you have provided neither.
I don't care about your opinion AT ALL.
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