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this post was submitted on 28 Nov 2023
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2010 investigating solid state
2013 mentions working on solid state
2017 ETA commercialize by Early 2020s
2019 Will establish a joint venture with Panasonic by 2020 no ETA on batteries
2023 June commercialization in 2027-2028
2023 Oct ETA still 2027-28
Note that further interviews state: limited production starts in 2027 The 745 and 10 min charging are worded as "could enable" IE will NOT be in the 2027-28 initial release.
They also plan to introduce it in hybrids first.
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me eight times, I’m an absolute moron for believing Toyota’s bullshit once again.
How is it fooling you to set a timeline, post updated that adhere to that timeline, then state your breakthrough 4 years before that timeline ends?
That’s not was happened. They’ve been releasing this nonsense as ‘a few years away’ annually since 2009. Often accompanied by the implication not to buy an EV now, it’s about to be made obsolete by solid state batteries.
I'm just going by home boys links.
And that's assuming they put in a battery that large and not a marginally bigger battery than the competitors.
I mean, nobody actually needs that big of a battery. The vast majority drive less than what EV batteries provide.
If they can introduce a car that weighs 2,000lbs less and have a battery replacement half that of the competitors, while providing the same range, that’s a huge win.
I think it’s still reasonable to focus on the 250ish mile range. I have a semi-old 2018 PHEV that gets 15-20 miles on electric plus 350 miles on gas and I fill up a few times a year. I live relatively close to work but 100 miles of electric range would be enough for 99% of people.
But when I leave the beaten path, I still use a good chunk of the gas engine. Going on a normal road trip on interstates is fine but rural gas stations aren’t converting yet. It still takes planning to go off the beaten path even if it’s obvious we’ll get there.
Pretty sure I saw something recently where they said they'd only have the batteries to make 10k SSB cars a year by 2030