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Henry Kissinger, War Criminal Beloved by America's Ruling Class, Finally Dies
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If you are going to have a news thread and allow opinionated titles, that means your community supports political commentary headlines and not factual news.
The titles should be nothing other than neural summaries.
"Henry Kissenger died at age 100, He was a controversial figure in American politics". That's a factual title.
The published title of this post is opinionated commentary and not factual news posting.
EDIT: You won't even support the idea of non-bias news posts. And you expect to be taken seriously. Fucking shaking my head right now.
It's Rolling Stone, they mostly do editorials. They're not the AP lmao.
I'm not saying RS is irrelevant. But it is still not academic papers. As much as they piss me off.
Editorials are almost always opinion pieces, peer review isn't really part of that process. 😅
Do we want this to be the equivalent of editorials?
That's basically all media these days and look how fucked they are.
I'm not asking for it to be peer reviewed, that also sucks based on the current view of the "publish or die" culture of academia.
I have no easy answers. I only have questions and counterpoints.
Yes, I prefer RS keep their format they got famous for with greats such as Hunter S Thompson and Chuck Palahniuk. They're not beat reporters, they're journalists.
See: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/
I can't discount your point of view. But I disagree with it.
Hunter S, while awesome, was not a journalist. He was a commentator. He injected his perspective into his writing. That isn't journalism, that is commentary.
He literally invented Gonzo journalism and pioneered the New Journalism movement, while writing for RS no less, what are you talking about.
I mean did you read what I wrote or did you just go into fanboy mode?
Firstly, Hunter was not the first person to write an opinion piece, or to write from the perspective of the subject. So "inventing" gonzo journalism? What the fuck does that even mean.
I like his style of writing, but it is commentary. Not journalism.
Literally the name journalism gives you insight as to what the approach of writing is meant to be. A journal is a series of entries in a book denoting objective facts. Commentary on one's experiences is called a dairy.
Literally look at his Wikipedia.
him dying of old age is a spit on humanity. babies get killed all the time and yet this psychopath lived a luxurious life after being responsible for the death of millions of people.
he may be dead, but even is death is a blight upon humanity, because he is, imho, one of the few people that deserve the death penalty for his crimes.
So you counter an inflammatory title with hyperbole. In 2021, in just Afghanistan, 14 percent of people killed were women and children.
In Palestine people are dying daily. In Ukraine they are fighting against a mad man... So on and so forth.
But here is a guy who for over 40 years has been out of the power structure, has no influence and dies when most of the grips you lot claim happened before you were born, but you have a massive hardon for him.
Must be nice to fight against a problem that doesn't exist.
thats is the true tragedy,mr troll. it isn't hyperbole. hk is responsible for millions of deaths and lived in luxury until he died of old age. thats like hitler living out his days in some german village after ww2
Yawn, not really interested in your dismissal. I wanted to ask that we have a News channel without an opinion comment in the headlines.
But you don't want that so let's go.
To quote you Kissenger was responsible for "millions of deaths", and lived his last days "Like Hitler living out his days..."
So source for Kissenger killing millions? You mean he was an advisor during Reagon? So Bush is not responsible for Iraq? Only his advisors? Get fucked!
Kissenger fled NAZI GERMANY at 15 with his family to the US, then drafted in 1943 to fight the Nazis. Something none of us know about.
The guy was not a saint. But you want to inject your view in a news thread and I just showed you a counter point. So go on and double down you dismissive prat.
The problem is that our society not only failed to punish, but actively rewarded someone who committed atrocities on par with world history's worst people. The problem is that it still does, which encourages more people like him to do more things like he did.
he was protected by the united states security. a mass murderer responsible for the death of millions of people, had the protection of the security forces of the united states. he was invited to the white house to give advice a lot of times, he was invited to parties all the time.
this is fucking surreal. the guy was responsible for millions of deaths, and there he was getting rich because he gave talks about being a fucking psychopath. and he did this in the most prestigious universities of the world.
if you really think about it, if you really take your time to understand, this whole thing is beyond fucked up. and there is this guy complaining about a title. which takes the situation from fucked up to absolute absurdity. its just absurd. i'm not even mad, i'm baffled.
Oh fuck off he was responsible for the death of millions of people. That's such bullshit I already feel dirty just asking for some sources.
You are going to give me an IamRight link to support your claim, I'm going to post a rebuttal showing I can prove Aliens rule the earth because "here is a webink" and then you are going to dismiss me with some cliche bullshit about "hurr durr sheeples, troll, shill" argument.
So let's cut the crap. Your agenda is to support the narrative of the populists, and my agenda is to argue against binary arguments.
Can we move on now?
hk was a symptom. nothing more than a tumour that broke the skin that is the disease that is the united states current policies. mr troll, the more i think about the more i question why is gwb still free? mr. troll have you shaken hands with hk?
I don't disagree with your point that he was just a symptom of an underlying problem.
Problems are pretty nuanced when discussing systemic issues.
People, ideology, beliefs... These are all small parts but together they make a big picture.
All I really want is that people think at a multidimensional level.
Remind me when this guy commanded troops?
I must have missed that part in history lessons. Unless you are saying that all advisors to the leadership are responsible for the leaders actions.
Well actually those who continue it as well right, for example every US president since Roosevelt.
Hang on, let's start the list, please feel free to add to it; Stephen Hadley, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell...