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Florida here checking in.
Our government is hard at work on this.
Check out this pending bill up for vote during the next session: https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/599/billtext/filed/pdf https://m.flsenate.gov/session/bill/2024/599/billtext/filed/pdf
Essentially it makes it illegal to be transgender and have a job in government or government adjacent.
Here is an excert: It is the policy of the state that a person's sex is an immutable biological trait and that it is false to ascribe to a person a pronoun that does not correspond to such person's sex. This section does not apply to individuals born with a genetically or biochemically verifiable disorder of sex development, including, but not limited to, XX disorder of sex development; XY disorder of sex development; sex chromosome disorder of sex development; XX or XY sex reversal; and ovotesticular disorder.
An employee or a contractor may not be required, as a condition of employment, to refer to another person using that person's preferred personal title or pronouns if such personal title or pronouns do not correspond to that person's sex.
An employee or a contractor may not provide to an employer his or her preferred personal title or pronouns if such preferred personal title or pronouns do not correspond to his or her sex.
An employee or a contractor may not be asked by an employer to provide his or her preferred personal title or pronouns or be penalized or subjected to adverse personnel action for not providing his or her preferred personal title or pronouns.
It continues on about not being able to fire people for thinking being gay is a sin and so on, but I don't want this to be a novel.
Well, if gay people weren't sabotaging electric substations, mass murdering innocent people and attempting to overthrow our government...., oh, wait!
Don't forget that big gay plot to kidnap a governor, and the other big gay plot to seize control of the capitol, the Supreme Court, and the Department of State and installed Donald Trump as an unelected dictator. Yes, they planned on having a lot of proud boys go hard into Foggy Bottom.
E: I forgot that other big gay plot to send mail bombs to all the Democratic leadership, ex-presidents, and governors that they could.
When do we get around to turning the frogs gay? That’s my favourite part.
Well I for one am so glad the government of Florida is tackling the REAL problems. Pronouns are scary and difficult to understand, and I never had to deal with calling my friend Dick by anything other than his given name.
/s because of poes law.
That bill doesn't make it illegal for transgender people to have a job in government or government adjacent. It merely prohibits them from requiring (with the force of law) other people to acknowledge their sexual identity.
No doubt it makes it difficult for some transgender people -- namely those who are unable to function if people don't acknowledge them -- to hold some jobs, though, but it doesn't forbid it as you imply.
This is essentially a pro freedom of speech legislation. To compare this with the Russians raiding gay bars and making "gay propaganda" illegal is preposterous.
If I read the bill wrong, please correct me.
It's not though. It doesn't just protect employers to call anyone whatever pronoun they want, it mandates that the preferred pronoun for trans people (and others) are not used.
It doesn't just protect bigotry, it requires it.
My reading of the bill is that it specifically forbids any mandates towards pronoun use. This may enable bigotry, but does not require it.
But perhaps you can point to the sentence that requires bigotry since I missed it.
"An employee or a contractor may not provide to an employer his or her preferred personal title or pronouns if such preferred personal title or pronouns do not correspond to his or her sex."
You're right that it doesn't require bigotry, but this section says that if a transgender person is misgendered, they cannot even request to be referred to by their preferred pronouns. I understand not being forced to refer to any person by any specific name or pronoun, but not being able to share your preferences is the opposite of freedom of speech.
Yes, seems like you were right and I was wrong. Thank you for correcting me.
That's indeed a rather shitty clause which goes beyond protecting free speech.
This is essentially a post from a dumbass that never amounted to anything.
You're right, fuck free speech!
Translation: I don't like what he says but I have no actual arguments so I'll just ad hominem. That'll show him.
Thank you for, in your own peculiar way, confirming my conclusions though.
Or, I have lots of actual arguments but recognize that I'm not your dad or your professor, and that I actually just think you're stupid and not worth the time it would take to explain it to you.
I recognize this form of argumentation from middle school. As you are presumably an adult instead of a child, perhaps you should try to improve your argumentation skills quite a lot before continuing these "actual arguments" you claim to have.
Or you could just pack it in. Stop posting bullshit takes on the internet and stick to your fucking mop.