What you and I are saying can happen naturally as well as artificially. I'm mostly talking about how that regardless of if they are co-opting delegitimisation propaganda in origin or natural in origin, that the incorrect one gets amplified through common media in clearly suspicious and divisive ways. There certainly are a lot of differences in each group, some legit and some not. What if the different groups can have a correct subset and an incorrect subset? We are meant to discuss and reject the incorrect subset.

You know how conservatives tend to have this one cherry picked crazy example of us sometimes? Those always feel like propaganda campaigns and if you trace and investigate them more you can see they have questionable roots. An example would be the /r/antiwork mod that interviewed on television. notice how he was the worst possible example of us and went on tv after everyone said that it was a lose/lose scenario, that if they air it, you lost, and if you win they wont air it therefor you still lose.

Why does every group have a very heavily advertised and mysteriously promoted subset that betrays the movement in effect but looks valid superficially? I've seen a hundred times more about sovereign citizens than I've seen about actual anarchists talking about ideals.

I’m a hardcore progressive. I will work with a capitalist democrat to get my goals met, but I wouldn’t associate with them if I had a better option.

This hurts :( My whole life feels dishonest because I cant find the right people to associate with in real life. I feel your pain.