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[-] Alivrah@lemmy.world 104 points 8 months ago

You can be against an immediate global threat without being against better conditions for your country. One does not exclude the other. Nuance and priority.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No no you see that's the "fuck you got mine" mentality...or whataboutism to have an excuse to let Russia take over Ukraine

This is the "it's not guns...it's metal health" argument

When the "mental health" part actually comes up for discussion, it's "radical, socialist, extremist, leftist, unamerican" take your alt reich buzzword pick

The GOP has already decided they will not be giving Ukraine aid and the whole "border reform" is bullshit and a strawman. When the aid "fails" all the pundits will say "the left didn't want to negotiate on the border enough" it's their fault Ukrainians will die, when they damn well know their mind was made up potentially months ago. Putin has them all their pockets likely with dirt ready for airing should they not fall in line

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You don't have to be Ukrainian or even be in Europe to be affected by what is happening.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-could-fail-meet-future-wheat-demand-if-attacks-continue-un-agency-warns-2023-11-21/

before the war Ukraine made up 9% of global wheat exports, 15% of maize and 44% of sunflower oil.

The Russian invasion is also affecting food prices globally. So those that don't care about the Ukrainians (which they should but hey let's explore the heartless approach to this) but do care about inflation should also want to support Ukraine in getting a speedy end to this war. This is to ensure that Russia does not create any further large scale disruptions:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/27/1159630215/the-russia-ukraine-wars-impact-on-food-security-1-year-later

in the first couple of months after Russia invaded, "food prices were quite high and quite volatile. Wheat futures jumped almost 60%. Corn and soybeans were up 15 to 20% in the first week or so."

while food prices reverted to pre-invasion levels for much of the past year, those levels are still a record high compared to the last decade.

In other words, the world remains in a somewhat precarious situation where, if just one thing goes wrong — a worsening twist to the war in Ukraine, a bad harvest in some important supplying nation – global food prices could spike.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

Your facts don't work. They're being told Biden is at fault for price increases

[-] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

LIE-DEN is WHOLLY RESPONSIBLE for the PRICES!!!! You stupid libtards don't understand. When the PRICES go UP it is because BABY EATING DEMONCRATS are making the ECONOMY WORSE. BUT when the prices go DOWN it's because GOD FEARING REPUBLICANS are FIXING the MESS the DEMONCRATS left.

[-] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Don't feed the trolls.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

But human decency is zero sum!

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