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A nice Lolita outfit, I'm aiming to get something similar sometime in the future.

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[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Is fashion the type of art you either “get or don’t get” or is it capable of being explained?

I’m asking because I want to understand “Lolita fashion” seeing as I currently don’t.

[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am in no way a fashion expert but I kind of want to give this a shot. I think of fashion as a way of categorizing set styles. The styles themselves are like guidelines that sometimes have big subcultures attached to them. In the case of Lolita fashion it was first a thing in Japan, and was mainly driven by girls/women in their rooms making the clothing themselves. If you read the wiki there was a huge social economic driver to the subculture as a whole that later got killed by our friend capitalism. The reason why it seems so radical and in your face is that is because it was meant as a rejection of the stifling nature of Japanese society as a whole. You will find that a lot of subcultures get generated by virtue of bucking the system. Hopefully this sounds coherent and not some crazy babbling.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

It was not crazy babbling. I would even go so far as to say you did a very good job at making points that built on each other in a very easy to follow manner.

The radical (radix, root, going to the base) nature of rejecting social norms about self presentation made something click. It intersects with the goth Lolita comment another person made.

Thanks for the write up.

[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

No problem comrade, this subject burns great inside of me because of my small Mormon town roots. You let me get a little bit of that out.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

It's like the furry subculture's rejection of social norms but with japanese characteristics.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

I may be showing my ass here, but I don’t understand that either. I vaguely approve from a distance because lots of cool people are involved, but I actually understand little to nothing about the way furry culture perceives itself. Is it like a totem thing? What is being rejected?

I have no clue, but I’m happy it exists. Countercultures are always full of people with “they live” glasses on.

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