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A nice Lolita outfit, I'm aiming to get something similar sometime in the future.

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[-] Comp4@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think I could pull of a goth look. I was a metal head as a teenager...gothic lolita is like the final end boss for me though and I dont feel femme enough. Plus a lot of the lolita fashion seems pricey (If I would ever consider it) Will admit I havent really looked at it in years though.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Somebody just told me that part of the point is/was members of the culture making their own clothes.

In hindsight, Marx talked a lot about this (yards of Lolita linen lol)

[-] Comp4@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, I have immense respect for people who make their own clothes. That said, bringing the skill to a level at which I would be satisfied would be a struggle in itself.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I guess it could be perceived as a gatekeeping aspect many subcultures have prior to going mainstream.

[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

I think the issue is mass produced clothing does not last long so does not hit the secondary market. Going back to my post a little bit there was a thriving used market in Japan and that is usually where people who did not have access or expertise to make things could get into the culture. You also had more of a sense of community with people helping others out to learn things and perhaps get equipment. Current Maker culture is like that right now where shared spaces have expensive gear you can use to finish projects.

[-] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That’s awesome, fast fashion poisoned me on fashion as a concept until I started lurking around lefty discussion of it that reject the consumer bullshit.

If I get you properly, the learning curve can be reframed as community building through onboarding? As opposed to my original (flawed?) framing of gatekeeping, I mean.

It’s kinda wild how rejecting consumer culture forced us to turn into makers if we go hard enough in the rejection. Cool, but also kinda wild.

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, it can be pretty expensive. It does, however, have a large and thriving used market, because a lot if it is made well and used infrequently. LaceMarket is pretty cool.

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