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Privacy minded instant messaging quest.
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this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
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The "truly private" req really smells with "I have no threat model and don't know what am I doing"
Yeah. What does privacy mean?
Does it mean nobody knows what you're saying? Doesn't mean nobody knows that you're talking? Doesn't mean nobody can tell two people have engaged in a conversation?
In addition to direct observations, you can make indirect inferences from many of those characteristics.
If I can observe your peer to peer traffic I know who's talking to who.
If I can observe your network, onion routing layer, I can determine who is talking to who with high probability
If I can see network traffic at all, I can determine who our members of a group, if the group messages are delivered simultaneously.
theres also notification scandal recently which i think the op doesnt know about
It was always known, in the threat model.
Though I think everyone assumed Google required a warrant.
Even without Google, Apple's participation and push notifications - signal still has the same capability. Simply because they've created a centralized architecture.
Anyway on Windows, Apple there is no sense to have a privacy apps if the OS it self pump everything it can.
And on Android it only make sense if you use an AOSP rom, or another but without the google crapware..