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A German foundation has said it will no longer be awarding a prize for political thinking to a leading Russian-American journalist after criticizing as “unacceptable” a recent essay by the writer in which they made a comparison between Gaza and a Jewish ghetto in Nazi-occupied Europe.

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[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 8 points 9 months ago

Everything you just said is correct as far as I know, but I don't think it supports your original statement. The US was acting like Switzerland, which is scummy as hell when one side of a conflict is clearly in the wrong, but that doesn't mean the US waited until Germany looked like it was losing. I'm not that much of a WWII scholar, but I was as a kid, and I wouldn't say Germany was clearly losing until after the D-day invasion in mid 1944. That's certainly the position assumed by popular portrayals of WWII, such as Jojo Rabbit and Downfall, to pick a US example and the one German one I know.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I wouldn't use Hollywood as a source. What sells well to the American public? America winning the war.

In British media, it's the battle of Britain.

I imagine Soviet media would show it as operation ~~barbossa~~ barbarossa.

But yes, scummy as hell.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago

True, it's not a real source. But I think it says something when media from both sides of the conflict paint the same picture.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

My point was that the allied countries' media doesn't present the same picture.

Of course axis media will paint the picture of their defeat as a late as possible, new player introduction; rather than incompetence in high command.

One must evaluate the source's Providence, motivation, etc.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 9 months ago

Barbarossa. It's Operation Barbarossa. And again, you continue to ignore the political reality that at least two giant constituencies in the US had very good reasons for not wanting to get into the European war. In a democracy, their views could not be ignored, no matter what others may have thought was the right thing to do. As I constantly find myself repeating to people on lemmy, winning an election doesn't mean that you get to do anything you want, it means that you can probably do some of the things you want and will have to compromise on others.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

That's me falling afoul of auto correct. I'll edit.

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