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Please defederate from threads.net (aussie.zone)

submitted 10 months ago by eatham@aussie.zone to c/meta@aussie.zone

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Meta threads will open federation to the fediverse soon, and while this is mainly to mastodon it will still affect lemmy. They are acting like they won't be evil, but let's be real this is Facebook when have they ever done that.

This article which has been trending lately explains some of the issues. https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

This comment here is a simple analogy if you can't be bothered reading the article. https://lemmy.ca/comment/5702922

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[-] RustyOperator@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

You're missing the point, people don't want to defederate from threads just because it would be the biggest, but also because it's Facebook. How are people giving Facebook of all places the benefit of the doubt? This is insane. If they don't have an alteriror motive now, they will most definitely later.

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 9 points 10 months ago

It's pretty unbelievable isnt it? You would think this wouldn't even be up for debate on a platform like Lemmy but some people seem desperate for growth at any cost.

[-] TheLurker@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No you are actually missing the point. If you are on lemmy.your.opinion, then Facebook is not going to be the most prevalent voice unless the rest of the people on your opinion instance support the posts coming from Facebook.

That's why when you log into your instance, you mainly see feeds from your Instance. You cannot "game" an algorithm you don't control.

Your fear comes from the influence the mainstream social media platforms weld. And they weld it because of their homogeneous control over their platforms.

The more you try to exclude them the easier it is for them to exclude the smaller players.

You exclude Facebook, then Google, then Microsoft, then Twitter. Then they all band together to push out the rest of us and then you lose another open protocol to absorption or subversion.

I'll call it now, this is how it will go down. Just like all the other open protocols I've seen over the last 25 years... Technically savvy people push back on general adoption because we are generally snobs and elitists.

[-] RustyOperator@sopuli.xyz 6 points 10 months ago

As far as I recall all these huge companies weren't excluded from these open protocols and now look at them. For instance - email, try hosting your own email server and see how quickly you will be filtered to spam on most email providers.

A perfect example of something being embraced by huge companies, then extended, and then finally extinguished and no longer viable to do by small parties.

Gmail even marks new Proton mail account emails as possibly "malicious", yet does not do this for their own service.

[-] TheLurker@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

I literally host my own email without issue. And this thread is about defederating from a large company.

Literally the sentiment of this thread is about exclusion without reason beyond "big is bad" ideology.

So what the fuck are you talking about?

[-] RustyOperator@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Well that was uncalled for.

I checked your replies and it's mainly rage posting and rage baiting.

Enjoy "debating" somebody else.

this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023

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