Meta is a cancer, there is no benefit to the company being given any access to this instance.
Meta don't deserve any chances, I'm here to get away from that toxic bull and would much prefer it to be blocked from any instance I interact with.
Here's my not-at-all-qualified take:
Let the federation ride. If Threads users add meaningful content and activity, then cool.
But the second we see a Meta ad, pull that fucking plug. We should not be distributing their ads for free (or at all).
Yeah but you might have it in reverse. Meta would benefit from lemmy users providing original content. It would basically suck the life out of the smaller instances and people would have no incentive to stick with apps or instances made by the little guys. If Meta started serving ads and we pulled out, it wouldn't mean much. By then, Meta might have adopted most users - all the while stealing our content.
^ Super hypothetical. I'm not a federation expert. But it sounds like that could happen.
I don't think lemmy and mastodon are big enough for meta to care about stealing our content.
I think you'd be surprised at how few people make OC for the internet and how those brains operate. I know I'm not porting my content bot over to threads anytime soon. He's very happy on mastodon and writes frequently.
Let us have all users from Lemmy, Kbin, Mastodon and probably Tumblr, and none from Meta. Is it so damaging to exclude them? With them comes the Meta fuckery, them dictating rules. It's better without them.
When I last looked at the defederations of some Mastodon servers, everyone was already blocking Threads. This was a year ago. Instances running Lemmy and Kbin and like should probably do the same.
For completeness there was a discussion (outdated) a few months back on this for anyone interested: https://aussie.zone/post/401165
Fully agreed, anyone who doesn't either works for Meta or can't see the writing on the wall about what this will do to the fediverse.
I'll be blocking it the first time it shows up on my feed anyway.
I presume this will be the case, but don’t think there’s been any official announcement yet. The majority of current servers have planned to resist by defederating.
Unfortunately, as much as I like Lemmy. It's kind of stuck in a catch-22 situation.
The bigger it grows the more likely it is to be destroyed by "bad actors"
Imo it depends on how it grows, especially how much decentralization it can preserve.
Instances like Lemmy.world and lemmy.ml are a big threat to decentralisation, however threads would be at a whole new level
So this means I'll be seeing what people post on threads in my lemmy app?
This seems like a very important discussion but let me tell you how I came across it. It's possible many others on Aussie Zone fall into a similar boat as mine. If not please ignore.
I only use Voyager to interact with Lemmy regularly. Occasionally I check out Aussie Zone via a browser but that's very rare.
I think the 'Default feed' for Voyager is 'Home' which are the coms I've subbed to. I didn't even know what 'Local' was until I looked it up just now (while trying to find out if Voyager can list all the coms of an instance like the coms page in a desktop browser, which I don't think it does).
So I was surprised not to see this discussion earlier after seeing it pop up more broadly across the lemmyverse. Turns out that's because I never selected the Local feed to see what everyone is talking about and because I wasn't subbed to Meta (as in the Aussie Zone com, not the company) until now.
If my ignorance is unusual for Aussie Zone folk then please ignore this comment. If it's possible that lots of other active or semi-active local users are not seeing this discussion is there any way to highlight it across the instance?
I've cross posted to Australia, locked and pinned which should get some attention from other users in your boat
it can get pinned by an admin, but i dont think thats nessarcery . you should subscribe to !meta@aussie.zone if you want to see posts about the instance itself.
I don't quite understand, would it be harder to defederate later, once they start becoming evil? Lemmy and Mastodon were founded to actively distance ourselves from the likes of Twitter and Reddit. We're not here because it's the only option we have or because we're creating a whole new system. We're here because we chose to and decide that we could live without relying on those big corporations. Surely, people here are more willing to give Meta the middle finger and wouldn't mind blocking Threads if that ever happened right?
Meta is already evil and has been for years. You don't get back with your abusive ex and say "I'll leave him if he hits me again", you get that fucker out of your life. Meta is the internet's abusive ex
This elitism bandwagoning hurts the goal of providing alternatives to closed source proprietary platforms for social media.
If you want an open and viable alternative to proprietary platforms running social media then you must have a willingness to include those who want to be part of said platforms.
So you want an alternative to closed source platforms, but you want said closed source platforms to be the biggest on the fediverse. Uuhh, yeah...
I posted this link in a reply but I'll put it here just incase. According to this part of the threads TOS by interacting with a threads user they will collect your data and send targeted ads.
https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/111585528118111249
~~This is how I think about this.~~
Edit - this is what comes to mind when I think about this
Discussion about the aussie.zone instance itself