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Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads
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this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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world won't defederate from the right without a long drawn out process (see Exploding Heads for example). However, if someone posts "Karl Marx is great" or "Communism makes sense" or "capitalism is bad", you'll probably see a defederation before the enter key is hit. (Hexbear).
lemm.ee or lemmy.ml are where it's at. I don't think it's great for power or userbase to be focussed on one instance. lemm.ee has 0.19 and world doesn't despite their junior and senior infrastructure folk from their full 7 week interview process for volunteer positions.
Edit: People are on Lemmy likely because the actions of corporate Reddit went too far. In what universe would that demographic be cool with Facebook...
Hexbear is toxic, and I say that as a communist. I actually came here to escape them after being on lemmy.one.
As you pointed out lemmy.ml and lemmy.ee are still federated here, despite the beliefs of users on the server. Why, I post here about communism all the time and nobody cares.
I only mention this because its why id rather not leave this instance. Hexbear users lead a targeted harassment campaign against me.
But I agree, threads is dangerous to the Fediverse, which is the topic at hand.
lemm.ee isn't left wing, they just don't believe in knee jerk defederation. Check the post on defederation by the lemm.ee instance runner (https://lemm.ee/post/4543536). Very mature, very balanced and very principled. Compare that to the lemmy.world one, and it's a no contest.
I'm a socialist, and while I think tankies have a dumb conclusions (that Stalin and CCP are good things), I have not seen anything I would consider toxic. Seems that people cannot handle large images. Maybe in a world where caps lock is shouting, that's toxic. Not for me though.
Can you explain what a targeted harassment campaign is, and give examples. I've heard many people claim this, but I've never seen anyone provide evidence.
I also think that instance defedration may become a thing of the past and now, with v19, leave it to the user to decide.
That said I'm fully on board with blocking Threads.
I do agree that this is a good step, but those of us that are concern about privacy arent protected. It will stop the receipt of data on our end, but Facebook will still have access to any posts interacted with by Threads users.
Given their habit of creating advertisement shadow profiles of non Facebook user, that is concerning.
It would, however, all me to migrate to an instance that isnt federated with threads, and block leas savory instances here on Lemmy who arent data concerns.
You aren't protected anyway. There is literally nothing to stop Meta from creating an unmarked service to scoop up all ActivityPub data that it can.
There actually is based on how Federation works. Federation only works by caching information between users that are interacting with each other. So the easiest way to do that is not by scraping, but by siccing their millions of users into the Fediverse.
It's why not everyone's lemmy pages look the same depending on the instance
If that really was their end game, they'd just use bots. Much more effective that way.
Google already indexes lemmy and mastodon.
Are we being defeatist about it? Because I don't think the solution to data privacy invasions is to just directly give them all the data straight into their servers.