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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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[-] USAONE@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Young People: So my choice is a morbidly obese corrupt fascist and failed businessman asshole who wants to be a Dictator or a Centrist who has spent his life in public service and generally is working toward a better future? I guess I'm ridin' with Biden.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That better future, most regrettably, is human annihilation via climate change.

I truly see, in that aspect, all capitalist candidates as the same.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Of the candidates, Biden has done the most to combat climate change. The Inflation Reduction Act was the biggest effort we've made so far, and it actually caused European countries to pass similar legislation so that their green energy companies would stay competitive.

Is the IRA perfect? Absolutely not. We need to do much more. And I trust Biden the most to do so.

Yes, I trust him more than the Greens. The green party likes to talk a big game but they have no results to show for it -- they could at least compete in local races, and as mayors and state representatives push sustainability policies. They also have no trouble running anti-science, fear mongering candidates who rub shoulders with the most corrupt capitalists in the world.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think you are missing the point unless someone from one of the parties does something literally right now our species is going to be destroyed. It's arguably already too late to stop it.

I don't think anyone is taking this seriously enough.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It's hard to tell what our trajectory is. It's clear we're going to see the effects of climate change and that we have to deal with it, we can't just ignore it. What isn't clear to me though is the severity. Are journalists sensationalizing it as the end of the world? Or are officials at climate groups like the IPCC downplaying the severity? Should we be talking like it's an existential threat to humanity, so drastic action is taken?

I don't know. And I say that as an engineer at a green energy company. I'm trained to look through the bullshit and I have an interest in this field. If I'm unable to determine what's what, I can only imagine how much worse it is for people who care about this but may not have the technical background on the details.

It's certainly too late to stop it entirely. We need to take measures to mitigate and weather through its effects. And regardless if it's an existential threat or not to us still, we should be acting now. It would be fantastic if we could get an annual climate bill that judges the situation each year and makes adjustments to course correct us to whatever our goal needs to be.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago
[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I've always found that channels takes to be unrealistically optimistic for my taste.

Optimism is dangerous in the face of a disaster. Pessimism lights the fire under you necessary to get it fixed.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

We aren't talking about abstract world views here, we're talking about optimism in the face of literally mid-drivinf off a cliff.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can give in to doomerism as much as you want but the science simply doesn't back it up. It's always a spectrum.

Hopefully you're doing more good than bad by spreading apathy and depression.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

A warmongering, racist piece of shit.*

FTFY

You don't have to pretend biden is good to say he's better than trump.

[-] USAONE@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Biden ended the Afghanistan campaign. We're in peacetime now. Are you talking about other nations buying American made military products?

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

I thought that shit show was Trump's fault.

[-] USAONE@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Trump set the timeline and gave the Taliban an endorsement to take over the nation. Biden oversaw the successful redeployment of troops. From a military only perspective that was a very successful operation. The State Department fucked up getting TCNs out and their families. That part was never part of the military mission.

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