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[-] median_user@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

EVs don't fix congestion, don't fix particulates from tyres, don't fix tyre noise (which dominates above 30mph), don't fix crash deaths, don't fix road damage, don't fix energy usage and don't fix cars contributing to sedentary lifestyles.

Perhaps we should also be looking at some other solutions while we transition to from ICE vehicles EVs.

[-] snacks@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

all of this is incorrect or misleading. in order:

congestion is far better in an EV than ICE. particulates from tyres and brakes are far worse in hotter engines, EVs use engine braking for 70-80% of all travel.

crash deaths are hardly EV specific.

nor is road damage.

after 15k miles the carbon debt is paid off and you can recycle the battery at end of life.

people need to travel to work.

im all for arguments against EVs but none of these are valid and have been debunked over and over and over again.

I might be missing something but how do EVs help with congestion? Do more people car share with an EV?

[-] snacks@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

are you actually missing something or on a wind up? Congestion is a problem of air quality.

[-] midgephoto@photog.social 3 points 1 year ago

@snacks @TheDolphinsWereRight
There's congestion which is a stuffed up nose, as with hay fever, and there's congestion which is 21 vehicles on a piece of road with capacity* for 20.

In context of EVs the latter would seem the more obvious to most of us in English.

(*It is more complex than that, of course, but a relative shortage of usable slots between and for vehicles is the essence)

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