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[-] qwop@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

Of the 1,723 adults surveyed across the UK, 73% said technology companies should, by law, have to scan private messaging for child sexual abuse and disrupt it in end-to-end encrypted environments.

Found this interesting. I found the survey results here: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/68pn2b6b57/NSPCC_OnlineSafetyBill_230427_W.pdf

The exact question I believe is being referred to was:

And do you think technology companies should or should not be required by law to use accredited technology to identify child sexual abuse in end-to-end encrypted messaging apps?

This seems like a really bad question, since it implies a coexistence of end to end encryption and big tech companies being able to read people's messages, which doesn't really make sense (or at least requires more clarification on what that would mean). The question as it is is basically "do you think child sexual abuse is bad".

[-] Grass@geddit.social 9 points 1 year ago

The answer is still no. They always say it is meant to protect children but they will stuff in loopholes to let them do whatever they want, then people in positions of power will still fuck kids and get away with it as long as they don't incriminate other people in even higher positions by being alive.

This is such a common way to attack people pushing for privacy by indirectly calling them pedophiles or pedophile supporters. But what about, for example, gay people living in a country where gay people are not accepted, treated violently, or even killed. Just a simple message could out someone and put them in danger. I have a friend that went home to Russia maybe about a decade ago and was using encrypted messaging in his communications to get him and his lover out. Now with Putin having his post-midlife crisis and dragging in everyone else it's even shittier for the little guy just trying to survive in a place where he can't trust anyone. I'm sure there are plenty of other equally important examples but there are a lot of people in my family and friends that are LGBT.

If it came down to a vote on a politician I would favour fixing foster care and adoption over 'preventing child sexual abuse' since most of the individuals using that as part of their platform seem wholly untrustworthy buzzword abusers or even projecting and are the problem rather than the solution. I can't think of any names off the top of my head but recall someone putting up a list of confirmed offenders in a discussion about how in America the republicans often call the democrats pedophiles but there is apparently a disappointing amount on both sides with a loooot on the side making the accusation.

Also if tech companies(who do they even refer to) can scan so called encrypted messages, there is literally nothing stopping them from scanning or just saving whatever they want. The question is just flawed to begin with even before the part where they coerce the answer they want using fear of being labelled as a pedophile.

[-] Olap@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

As an ORG donator. Where's the counter survey?

"Do you support companies weaking encryption for all?"

"Do you support hackers reading your purchases?"

"Do you support your employer knowing your sexual preferences?"

"Do you support MI5 knowing your whereabouts every 5 minutes?"

Weakening encryption isn't actually possible, what we'll do is drive things underground. And without US backing, it's all a silly endeavour

this post was submitted on 05 Jul 2023
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