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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Awhile ago I learned that there's a thing called casteism. I thought racism was extremely stupid, but casteism just cranks the stupidity to 11. So instead of discriminating against someone's skin tone or nationality, you're discriminating against literally nothing??? Whatever, man...

[-] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yea Hindu nationalism is kind of built around that. If you are poor you are poor because you deserve it. And we are rich because we deserve it etc..

Interviewed a guy from the Communist party about caste among other thing and even they have a hard time getting people out of the caste think among their own members.

It's so hard rooted you need a revolution to even scratch the surface of it.

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yea Hindu nationalism is kind of built around that.

Well, you don't really know what Hindu nationalism is, do you? It is the same as Zionism - A Hindu country that practises apartheid against other groups, barring a select few "allies", like the Bohra and Ahmaddiya Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Parsis, Jews and Christians. Hindu unity stems from removing casteism, at the cost of vilifying the Muslims.

If you are poor you are poor because you deserve it. And we are rich because we deserve it etc..

Also, you've not a clue about casteism. It has nothing to do with money. Caste is a social and political issue, not a religious one. Casteism is a by-product of spread of Vedic influences, and it exists in every religion practiced in India, including the Indian diaspora of Muslims and Christians.

Your lazy evaluation hurts the downtrodden castes in other religious communities. Watch this documentary first: India Untouched.

It's so hard rooted you need a revolution to even scratch the surface of it.

Yes, leftist revolution is needed, but here's a twist - most of the communist leaders in CPI(M) Kerala are all Hindu Brahmins or Catholic Brahmin Christians, with little to no diversity. Only socialist parties like Janta Dal (People's Party) or Samajwadi (Socialist) Party has people from other castes.

You look like a troll LARPing as a communist. No leftist in their right mind would dehumanize other groups, by calling them apes.

[-] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Sure I'm no expert , just touched on the subject in my research. My focus was on the forced displacements done. Which was justified by many things caste , scheduled tribes that got "benefitted" by moved in to the desert. As I said very hard ingrained everywhere. but of course it's about money and power. Just like everywhere else religion , social and politics, tradition and so on can justify it.

Just like money is about politics.

Bad wording on my part. King of the hill politics then if you wish.

Im just not a hippie that wants to justify shitty thing since they got high in Goa once. Who's larping uh.

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My focus was on the forced displacements done

Is this with respect to Rajput/Jat/Gujjar/Thakur supremacy in the cow-belt areas (somewhere around Rajasthan)? Well, I am not surprised.

It also reminds me of sub-nationalism, which is a real problem. Malayali chauvinist have practiced this to drive native Tuluva, Koraga and Kodava folks out from Kasargod, which is the northernmost districts of Kerala, home to the minority community. I'm a Tuluva, so I know about this. Similarly, Kannada, Telugu and Marathi chauvinists have also similarly imposed their language on many minorities.

Language chauvinism may have some casteist intentions, with how they force language, appropriate culture and destroy language of the tribals, but not necessarily - Kodava, Konkani and Tuluva aren't tribals - they're just minority Hindu communities, with Christians in the Konkani demographic.

Bad wording on my part

At least we can agree on something

Who’s larping uh

I'm tired, let's stop this here.

[-] LoveSausage@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Sure. Sorry if beeing confrontational. Started this after a few drinks. Main research was MP tourism establishing stealing lands, Many were tribal others not. A big cohort of foreign and domestic money , corruption and violence (direct and indirect).

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 7 months ago

From what I heard in podcasts this is even a serious problem in the US tech scene, which hires a lot of professionals from India. Imagine being descriminated against by your manager because of caste in silicon valley.

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