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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

No. No AI is NOT the umbrella term for all of them.

No computer scientist will ever genuinely call basic algorithmic tasks "AI". Stop saying things you literally do not know.

We are not talking about what what the word means to normies colloquially. We're talking about what it actually means. The entire point it is a separate term from those other things.

Engineers would REALLY appreciate it if marketing morons would stop misapplying terminology just to make something sound cooler... NONE of those things are "AI". That's the fucking point. Marketing gimmicks should not get to choose our terms. (as much as they still do)

If I pull up to your house on a bicycle and tell you, "quickly, get in my vehicle so I can drive us to the store." You SHOULD look at that person weirdly: They're treating a bicycle like it's a car capable of getting on the freeway with passengers.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What I've learned as a huge nerd is that people will take a term and use it as an umbrella term for shit and they're always incorrect but there's never any point in correcting the use because that's the way the collective has decided words work and it's how they will work.

Now the collective has decided that AI is an umbrella term for executing "more complex tasks" which we cannot understand the technical workings of but need to get done.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sometimes, but there are many cases where the nerds win. Like with technology. How many times do we hear old people misuse terms because they don't care about the difference just for some young person to laugh and make fun of their lack of perspective?

I've seen it quite a lot, and I have full confidance it will happen here so long as an actual generalized intelligence comes along to show everyone the HUGE difference every nerd talks about.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

But it will be called something different so almost nobody will notice that they now should see the difference

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

This is in fact how common language works, and also how jargon develops. No one in this thread outside of the specific people pointing out the problem cares what it is beyond the colloquial use, keep jargon to the in group, or you'll just alienate the out-group and your entire point will be missed.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

To be fair, AI was coined to mean programs written in LISP and it changes every time new techniques are developed. It's definitely just a marketing term, but for grant money.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Calm down , language is fluid, you may not like it, but if enough people start using it as an umbrella term, that is what it's colloquially and eventually officially going to be soon. You can't expect to have such hard set rules this early on in the technology, it's foolish

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Calm down , language is fluid, you may not like it, but if enough people start using it as an umbrella term, that is what it's colloquially and eventually officially going to be soon. You can't expect to have such hard set rules this early on in the technology, it's foolish