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Huh. I wonder how much it trends upwards with every infection. If a person not avoiding it can reasonably be assumed to get it 3-5 times per year how many times do they need to catch it before it can reasonably be assumed that a large proportion of a population becomes disabled? What are things going to look like in 25 years if this continues?
There's been a lot of quibbling about what long covid is recently, because so many people are having long term health problems following an infection. The WHO says it's about a 1 in 10 chance every infection. Recently the German health minister stated the risk was 3% per infection. If the German health minister is right, that's approximately the same chance of rolling snake eyes on a pair of dice. Every infection.
How many infections you get will depend on what variants you are exposed to, how much of it you were exposed to, the timing between exposures, and if you were vaccinated within the last few months. It's a combination of all those factors and how your body responds to them, which can vary significantly between people. It's safe to say at least once a year, probably twice a year now that almost nobody is trying to prevent infections, and three times a year if you are unlucky.
So best case you roll the dice once a year. Worst case three times a year.
Basically, everytime covid enters the bloodstream, it's down to luck as to wether or not our immune system responds before it does a bunch of damage to our body, and by not doing anything to prevent the spread of the virus outside of vaccines and prior immunity, we are selecting for variants of the virus that are best able to evade the immune system. In other words: The only evoluntionary pressure it's facing is to get around the immune system, and it has billions of hosts a year to train on. I believe we have seen the same mutations that make it easier for it to evade an immune response develop in different variants several times at this point. This situation is unique in modern history, and no one really knows how it will play out.
We are already seeing disability rates go up so much in the US and UK that they are preparing to redefine disability to exclude more and more people, so that's a bad sign.
The latter parts of this comment with KP3.1 variants now is just... depressing really, not chefs kiss, its just depressing.
So a lot of doctors, researchers, and ppl on Twitter say that each infection brings a 10% chance of long COVID. I'm sure that the reality is more complicated, but it's a useful shorthand.